slipped my clutch.

[Killer223]

like on my sons 93 toyota, it gets 10/40 motor oil. it's the best oil we have ever used.

[AH64ID]

22 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Because it's much thicker gear lube compared to ATF that comes factory filled in the G56.

 

Yes it's thicker than ATF, but ATF is only the DC factory fill. The OEM (MB) spec is a GL-4 fluid. There are 4 primary recommendations which range from  SAE 50 to 80w gear lube, 75w-80 gear lube, or 75w-90 gear lube. So it shouldn't be too thick. 

 

The Delvac 50 just doesn't seem to work well with it, among others. 

 

ATF has similar viscosity to 80wt gear lube. 

Edited August 29, 2017 by AH64ID

[Killer223]

so in talking to the trans guy that built my auto for the 04 he recommended the G56-OFEK. is the engagement that much harsher? like backing up a trailer? or the slow role have to slip a clutch?

[AH64ID]

I prefer the O-HD in my dads 06 G56 to the OFE in my 05 NV5600. It's smoother and quieter.

[Killer223]

i really hate being so OCD,

 

Why is it i can buy the clutch cheaper form a performance shop then i can from SB own web site?

WTF over?

[dripley]

If they undersold their dealers then nobody would buy them from the dealers. I believe they would rather sell thru the dealers. I found this to be true on other things as well thru the years. 

[Killer223]

i'm having a hard time deciding between the Valair dual disk quiet, and the SB John suggested.

does the old age get what you pay for apply here? i can get the dual disk for about 200$ more than the single. and i know i'll never need that kind of holding, but what if... i'd really really hate to get the SB and slip it,

my truck is "350" hp, so i could in theory run 75 hp tune.

 

I hate being OCD and having to make these decisions

[AH64ID]

I think they rate them on rwhp/tq. 

 

All I know is that I'm just over 400 rw and 470ish crank and the OFE holds wot at 22K+ GCW. I don't think I'd need to detune for the O-HD. 

Edited September 27, 2017 by AH64ID

[Killer223]

thank you.

[AH64ID]

It would probably be worth a call to verify. 

[Killer223]

new clutch on it's way.

G56-OK-HD

it'll be fine.

[AH64ID]

I think you'll like it.

[Killer223]

So, who wants to help install a clutch? @Mopar1973Man it's paying job of course. thoughts?

 

[Killer223]

so clutch has been installed for a little over 1200 miles, and i gotta say i hate it. the peddle resistance has subsided enough to where i can handle it, but i still cant get it into 1,2,R without going to 4,6 first, even then it's almost impossible, so i shut the truck off, shifts smooth as glass, start truck and drive. if moving it shifts good, Mind you i never had these issues before, i'm bout to put my old one back in as i cant swing another 1300$ another clutch.

needless to say i'm not happy, Emailed SB they say it sounds like a pressure plate issue, Trans shops tell me it's the pilot bearing dragging on the input shaft.

 

yeah i'm really miffed.

Edited October 22, 2017 by Killer223

[AH64ID]

Man that sucks! 

 

It does sound like an issue with the new clutch. I'd work with SBC before installing the old one. 

[dripley]

I have to agree that sucks. I would also agree with @AH64ID on talking to SBC, somethings not right with it.

[Mopar1973Man]

Installing clutch you have to pay attention to detail closely especially stubbing the transmission back in and making sure it completely Sears on its own without pulling it in with bolts.

 

I'm sorry I'm extremely picky about clutch installs. But that's me...

[Killer223]

I'm beyond OCD. Very detailed. I know better than to suck it together with bolts. 

It engages about 1/2-3/5 way up the stroke, so I know it's not a hydraulics issue. They are new as it is. Only thing I can think of is pilot bearing is dragging.. its new as well. 

 

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Hey Mike you do you feel like tackling this? i'll gladly drive up and turn wrenches with you.

[AH64ID]

I've got a few engagement issues with my OF-E and I can tell you it's not a pilot bearing issue, as I'm on my 2nd without any change. 

 

I think it's a pressure plate issue on my OF-E and figured it was OF-E specific as the O-HD my dad has is like a hot knife thru butter. I hope I didn't lead you astray. 

 

Work with SBC, as I hear they are excellent to deal with on issues. It just sucks to have to R&R the trans for a clutch issue...... which is why I haven't done more to deal with my irregular engagement issues. I should have replaced the clutch when the motor was out, but I was spending too much as it was. 

[Killer223]

No worries John, I've used SB for the better part of 25 years, and a few issues but nothing like this.

And if you search, it seams it happens a lot to the SB crowd. not so much the Valair, but still a few reports of it.

My email correspondence with SB has been they still think it's a pressure plate issue. I will give them a call Monday and see about getting a new one on the way.

i purchased the entire kit to try and not have these kind of issues. but well, those that know me call me Murphy, as his laws fallow me with a black cloud.