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ISX

Not sure why he didn't just dump it down the stacks, that's where the soot is :lol:I've only used that stuff when filling up as an additive, maybe twice. Never did anything bad, or good as far as I can tell. Another thing to watch out for, guy upstairs just got an injection pump off an 8.3, not a p pump but a different smaller output inline pump. Some guy gave it to him saying biodiesel destroyed it. I can't really understand how, since fuel hardly travels far in an inline pump, not through it like rotary ones. Only thing I can think of is it brought some abrasives into the system which trashed the barrel or plunger's tight fit seal and everything started leaking :shrug: Wish I knew more details on what exactly happened.

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dorkweed

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-iPCb-3cqU

Here is something I highly suggest no one does to their truck a good way to do damage to the engine. When he pouring Seafoam in you can hear the pre-ignition knock... OUCH! :rolleyes:
I'll give you one guess as to where he heard to use it from!!!:evilgrin::cookoo:

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SnoFarmer

Aerosol deep creep sprayed into an intake :cookoo:BUT.Regular sea~foam when used properly does not cause a rattle or knock.The way I use it is when I'm changing fuel filters, I pre-fill the fuel filter with sea~ foam.(pour it into the outer ring, not down the center of the filter and the filter will filter it)Then just let it idel for a minute, shut it off and let it sit for a few then fire her back up.no rattling, dieseling, or any diffrent sounds.I've been doing this to different diesel engins for 28years now:shrug:

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Mopar1973Man

I'll give you one guess as to where he heard to use it from!!!:evilgrin::cookoo:

Ok... Where did he hear it from??? (PM if needed...) :lmao2:

Aerosol deep creep sprayed into an intake :cookoo:

BUT.

Regular sea~foam when used properly does not cause a rattle or knock.

The way I use it is when I'm changing fuel filters, I pre-fill the fuel filter with sea~ foam.

(pour it into the outer ring, not down the center of the filter and the filter will filter it)

Then just let it idel for a minute, shut it off and let it sit for a few then fire her back up.

no rattling, dieseling, or any diffrent sounds.

I've been doing this to different diesel engins for 28years now:shrug:

There is the key phrase "Used properly" puoring SeaFoam into the intake tract is not proper use of the product...:nono:

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guesswho512

Another thing to watch out for, guy upstairs just got an injection pump off an 8.3, not a p pump but a different smaller output inline pump. Some guy gave it to him saying biodiesel destroyed it. I can't really understand how, since fuel hardly travels far in an inline pump, not through it like rotary ones. Only thing I can think of is it brought some abrasives into the system which trashed the barrel or plunger's tight fit seal and everything started leaking :shrug: Wish I knew more details on what exactly happened.

two words...salt and pressure

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ISX

two words...salt and pressure

Care to explain? It's been eating at me for days :lol:

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LiveOak

Not sure I would want that truck after those 2 brain surgeons dumps Sea Foam through the engine like that. :nono::cookoo:

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guesswho512

Care to explain? It's been eating at me for days :lol:

most of the time i hear bio-diesel and bad pumps, frying oil is involved. voids warranty because of "poor/low quality fuel". i even saw a pic of a head that was rotting away. supposedly he was also running veggie oil. i wish i could get some regular LSD

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ISX

Hmmm, I wonder if that is just with WVO or if that includes biodiesel factories. I know food and all that would add a lot of crap to it, like the salt you mentioned, just wouldn't think b20 from the pump like I can get here would have anything bad in it, but maybe so. All I know is it's 15 cents more expensive than regular, so not seeing how going green saves money :shrug:

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dorkweed

Ok... Where did he hear it from??? (PM if needed...) :lmao2:

Check avatar!!:moon::moon::lmao2::lmao:

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AH64ID

You won't ever catch me using seafoam on a HPCR.. I have used it with good luck on gassers, but it won't go anywhere near my Dodge.

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SnoFarmer

Any fool who would wear a cap sideways is a little:cookoo:

Even the want-a-be gangsters are to cool:cool: to wear it that way.:thumb1:

Even the sea~foam folks will tell you not to use the product the way those fools are.

Sea Foam, when used in Diesel fuel, cleans fuel deposits from the fuel system and carbon from inside the engine safely. It also adds lubrication and controls moisture when added to diesel fuel at one ounce per gallon. Another use for Sea Foam in Diesel applications is cleaning fuel injectors. This is accomplished by getting engine to operating temperature then shut off. Remove the fuel filter (replace filter if needed.) Empty all diesel fuel from filter or filter housing and fill filter or housing with straight Sea Foam. Reinstall filter on engine, making sure there is no air in filter. Start engine and let run about two minutes, then shut engine off and let sit about 5 minutes. This is called a “HOT SOAK” letting the Sea Foam soak into the carbon. After the “hot soak” period, restart the engine and road test, driving aggressively for about 5 miles. This will clean carbon from the injectors and the combustion chamber inside the engine. Sea Foam can also be used in oil for cleaning the crankcase. Adding Sea Foam to your oil will clean oil deposits and varnish from your crankcase, free up sticky lifters and clogged oil control rings. Add Sea Foam to the oil at one pint to four gallons of oil. Then drive vehicle a minimum of one hour before changing oil.

Sea Foam is very safe and effective in the ways described above. Most people that own and work on Diesel cars and trucks know that no liquids can be used through the air intake system of a Diesel engine including cleaners and starting fluids. If this is done to a Diesel engine it can cause major engine damage including Hydro-Lock or uncontrolled engine acceleration known as “RUN AWAY”. Do not add Sea Foam to the air intake of a Diesel engine!!

If these simple instructions are followed, Sea Foam will effectively and safely clean your fuel system, injectors and the crankcase when used in Diesel engine applications.

:smart:

:lol:

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LiveOak

One of the things that makes this country great is that it offers some much freedom of choice. Sorry......but there will be NO Sea Foam going into my diesel engine in anyway shape form or fashion. :spend:

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AH64ID

Their Diesel FAQ page says "Sea Foam Motor Treatment is 100% Petroleum"But the MSDS says "10-20% IPA by volume".. That is not a petroleum product in the sense they are advertising!So believe what you want with their advertising..

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Mopar1973Man

Their Diesel FAQ page says "Sea Foam Motor Treatment is 100% Petroleum" But the MSDS says "10-20% IPA by volume".. That is not a petroleum product in the sense they are advertising! So believe what you want with their advertising..

IPA (Rubbing Alcohol) then there is a pale oil too... http://www.telecheminternational.com/IPA_Reagent_ACS.PDF One of the members here suggested I try a can of the seafoam to try and correct my intermitted miss fire I have at idle. well the funny part is the day I added it seem like a it ran a bit different. No there was no 2 cycle oil in the fuel. But after that tank was done it done nothing to change performance. So I returned back to my 2 cycl oil and kept going...

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AH64ID

I had an intermittent rough idle at startup 2 summers back, it seemed like an injector wasn't opening on various hot starts.. I think it happen 10 or so times... Well since then I have added 2um filtration, an extra f/w separator and run Amsoil diesel concentrate every tank... Hasn't happened in 18 months, so between cleaner fuel and some heavy towing to work/clean the injectors it quit... So good filtration and heavy use goes a long ways.

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ISX

I've actually had really good luck with B20. I don't use it much but my fuel pump started ticking really loud one day and I figured whats got more lube in it than B20! So went by a got some and tick went away and never came back. Starts a lot better with B20 also. Has a lot of cetane in it and less energy so you don't get as far though. Be nice if I could just get B2.

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AH64ID

I have ran B20 twice.. Once it gelled on me 2 days in a row (the 2nd day the tank had HUGE amount of anti-gel and additive), so that left a REAL sour taste.I did run it again when I was in Az this spring.. I really like it, no change in MPG, broke 18 like every other tank down there, and had more fuel pressure (+1 min over #2), and ran quieter..Too bad it costs so much up here!

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SnoFarmer

Yes the pail oil has wax in it but so does diesel fuel.The ipa is not an issue if you do not add it to your fuel tank.Just like using power service or a similar products that emulsifies water or removes water from your fuel are bad. Let your fuel/water filter do it's job if water is the issue.When added to your fuel filter it does not have the opportunity to emulsify any water.Like a lot of products it depends how you use it.just like I'll never use 2cycel in my diesel, it's for my 2 strokes.Now with B2 being mandated by law in my state I may stop or cut way back on cleaning additives.No proublem with gelling just run 50% #1 in the winter.

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AH64ID

When added to your fuel filter it does not have the opportunity to emulsify any water.

Except for the water that is in the fuel filter housing, since that's where its stripped from the fuel!

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SnoFarmer

???If you fallow the directions or use common sense you would drain the fuel filter first,(how could you add it if you didn't?) or pre-fill it when changing the filter.How much water do you think is present in the small amount of fuel that is in the filter?If you have that much water in your fuel to have to be worried about this you have bigger problems. jmo

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ISX

I have ran B20 twice.. Once it gelled on me 2 days in a row (the 2nd day the tank had HUGE amount of anti-gel and additive), so that left a REAL sour taste. I did run it again when I was in Az this spring.. I really like it, no change in MPG, broke 18 like every other tank down there, and had more fuel pressure (+1 min over #2), and ran quieter.. Too bad it costs so much up here!

Exactly, I won't run it in winter. If I do it's just a gallon so that it thins out to B2 or so. Once summer hits, we are lucky to get under 60F here. I liked it a lot too, loved how instant it started. It is about 20 cents a gallon more than regular though. If it wasn't such a hassle (only one place sells it within maybe 150 miles), then I would dump a gallon in for every fill up of regular #2.

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LiveOak

I run the Amalgamated TDR-WDA formula in Winter: http://www.amalgamatedinc.com/tdr-wda.aspx and TDR-S during late spring through early Fall: http://www.amalgamatedinc.com/tdr-s.aspx It is probably overkill but I still add te Walmart Tech 2000 2 stroke oil if for nothing else, peace of mind. I noticed right off the bat that my engine ran noticably quieter. (much less combustion noise) Just to make sure it was not my bias'd and wishful thinking, I treated the fuel in the wife's truck WITHOUT telling her about it. After about a 2 or 3 days of driving it, she commented to me that the truck ran a lot quieter for some reason but after she filled it up again the normal combustion noise returned. Not scientific, peer reviewed research evidence by a long stretch, but noticable positive feedback from someone who not aware of the fuel additive being in the fuel.

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AH64ID

??? If you fallow the directions or use common sense you would drain the fuel filter first,(how could you add it if you didn't?) or pre-fill it when changing the filter. How much water do you think is present in the small amount of fuel that is in the filter? If you have that much water in your fuel to have to be worried about this you have bigger problems. jmo

Simply stating that your fuel filter bowl has the possibility of holding the highest concentration of water in your entire fuel system. Also if you fill the filter bowl with sea-foam, say 12 oz, and let it idle for 5 minutes, you have burned about 10oz of "fuel" (at 1GPH idle, which may be hi or low, depending on load), but with the stock LP you have pumped almost 3 gallons of fuel thru the filter and injection pump.. So you have only burned a very small amount of seafoam, prob less than 1oz , the rest has returned to the tank, where it will mix with the fuel and emulsify your water. On a side note, how did you get a 98 4runner with a 3.0? The last year for the 3.0 was 95?

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