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Hopefully replacing my power steering pump tomorrow. There is a threaded pressure line at the bottom of the pump and then I think 2 return lines to the pump from the booster and gearbox. If they are both return lines, does it matter which stub the hoses are attached to on the pump? I was reading IBMobiles filter article and I may have my return lines crossed, but in theory it shouldn't matter. I also have a filter on the line coming from the booster to the pump where IBMobile has it on the line from the gearbox? 

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It shouldn't mater.  They are both return lines to the reservoir part of the pump.

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Good to hear. How pricey was the Borgeson?

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wonder who makes for Borgeson?????

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8 hours ago, CTcummins24V said:

Defective NAPA reman pump off, new Borgeson pump on and I have complete power steering at idle and power brakes! 

 

Interesting.  At 215,000 miles on my truck  I replaced the original power steering pump even though it was still working.  I replaced it with the Boregeson pump.  The Borgeson pump had started making a very minor noise under certain conditions a few months ago and it failed suddenly and completely at just under 75,000 miles later.  I now have a Napa remanufactured pump on the truck.  It will be interesting to see how long it will last. 

 

I was disappointed in the short life of the Borgeson pump.

 

How many miles did you get out of your Napa pump?

 

- John

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9 minutes ago, Tractorman said:

I was disappointed in the short life of the Borgeson pump

I have 442k on my oe pump and keep waiting for it to explode. It is a touch weak and shows that at idle every so often. Probably ought to just replace. I believe I got my moneys worth out of it.

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9 hours ago, Tractorman said:

 

Interesting.  At 215,000 miles on my truck  I replaced the original power steering pump even though it was still working.  I replaced it with the Boregeson pump.  The Borgeson pump had started making a very minor noise under certain conditions a few months ago and it failed suddenly and completely at just under 75,000 miles later.  I now have a Napa remanufactured pump on the truck.  It will be interesting to see how long it will last. 

 

I was disappointed in the short life of the Borgeson pump.

 

How many miles did you get out of your Napa pump?

 

- John

 

Defective out of the box

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343k mile factory OEM pump still going. When it comes time ill go with a NAPA power steering pump.

 

Biggest thing is making sure the system is clean and flushed out before hooking up the return lines.

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2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

343k mile factory OEM pump still going.

 

I should have stayed with my OEM pump.

 

- John

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My trick is that I change power steering fluid ever 30k miles. When I pulled my power steering gearbox it was very clean inside and virtually no wear. Only problem was the amount of rust in the input seal made it leak.

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On topic but a different vehicle. I just replaced the power steering pump on a 96 K 2500 Suburban about a week ago. How it all started,  had a leaky pressure line. So I put a new line, on filled the reserve with oil, fired up the truck, oil level drop maybe an inch, added to the top because I knew it was going to take more, started to turn wheels back and forth, got some more air out. Check fluid it was a normal operating range, so I figured I'll crank it back and forth few times just to be sure, went one way fine, went the other and pump made a lot of noise and quit pumping. I figured it was done for, went and got a new one from orielys, been working fine ever since.

Still not quite sure what went wrong, maybe it had a air pocket someplace and got hot, just weird how it work for 10-15 minutes and then it crapped.

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To finish what I was saying. I just took that gm pump apart and here is the problem, screwdriver is pointing at it. Shaft snapped for whatever reason, guessing it was hydrolocked or something and couldn't take pressure.

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Possible but I didn't see much in there when I took it upart, had a little bit but wasn't hard, more like sludge from not changing fluid since new lol. So I don't doubt it. 

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Bingo. Sludge is really hard on pumps and will cause it to break to thick in viscosity small shaft can't handle the load. I'm going to have the oldest power steering pump that is OE.

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On 8/20/2018 at 9:29 PM, Mopar1973Man said:

Bingo. Sludge is really hard on pumps and will cause it to break to thick in viscosity small shaft can't handle the load. I'm going to have the oldest power steering pump that is OE.

Still have mine 452k.

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4 hours ago, Dieselfuture said:

How often you change your power steering fluid

Well I hate to say this but I have never completely changed or flushed my PS fluid. I have on several occasions taken the "turkey baster" thing and sucked what fluid I could get out of it and replaced it. I cant say that is the best thing to do by any means since most folks have seen failures long before I have. The only thing that has failed on mine is the hydro boost. It blew the seals. But I am in a minority on this. Most folks have see other failures long before me. So please dont let my experience set your maintenance schedules. You might pay a price.  

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Let's just say Dripley's abusing his truck a bit. Maybe that turkey baster is just enough to keep you from trouble. I still suggest purging the system and refreshing the system completely forcing all old fluid out and refill with fresh fluid.

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Not the same make of vehicle but I got around 597,000 and 40 years on the original power steering pump in my 78 F150. The fluid gets slowly replaced since the swivel joint on the pressure side seeps and has for the 21 years I've owned it and no telling how long when my grandpa owned it. It has that whiney and growling pump that Ford was famous for in the 70's and 80's. Still has the original untouched steering box too.

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Just now, Mopar1973Man said:

Let's just say Dripley's abusing his truck a bit. Maybe that turkey baster is just enough to keep you from trouble. I still suggest purging the system and refreshing the system completely forcing all old fluid out and refill with fresh fluid.

He speaks a lot of truth on this. I also have a weepy head gasket for believing the 100k mile change of coolant like the owners manual suggests. Go figure!!!!!

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1 hour ago, dripley said:

I have on several occasions taken the "turkey baster" thing and sucked what fluid I could get out of it and replaced it.

Oh man, here we go.... dont let @IBMobile see this :stirthepot: sorry I couldn't resist. :cheers:

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