2007 3500 Okay Deal?

[LorenS]

I came across this ad, and it seems high for pushing 200k miles. But, it also seems to have no rust.  Thought I'd see what you all think. I have two sets of 3rd Gen wheels for my 2nd, so would swap to stock steel wheels. Weird there's no photos of interior. I may go check it out on Sunday if still available, try to get a better price.

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/ctd/d/harrisonville-2007-dodge-ram-3500-trx4/7337248890.html

[Royal Squire]

Not sure why it has DRW listed. 

[LorenS]

11 hours ago, Royal Squire said:

Not sure why it has DRW listed. 

Me, neither. I tried an online VIN decoder to see if it's been converted for some reason, but no luck.

[Mopar1973Man]

Just like my 2006 its a SRW 1 ton.

 

[NIsaacs]

If you want to upgrade, I recommend you go slightly newer and get the 6pd auto and oem exhaust brake.

 

Used truck prices are insane, that one seems reasonable. 

[LorenS]

2 hours ago, NIsaacs said:

go slightly newer

I just REALLY don't want to go newer than December 31st, 2006. I don't want to deal with DPF, EGR, regens, etc., and don't want to deal with future crack downs on deleted trucks.

[Tractorman]

I am not an automatic transmission guy.  I like six gears that are selectable by me when I say so.  But, if I had to buy a newer truck with an automatic transmission, it would NOT be a 4 speed automatic.  I agree with @NIsaacs- get a newer truck with a 6 speed auto transmission with an integrated exhaust brake.  It would make you wonder why you lived with a 4 speed automatic for so long.  I think you would be able to find undeleted newer trucks if that is a concern.

 

- John

 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Tractorman
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[LorenS]

I had a work-issued 2015, and it was a great truck, but I didn't have to pay for the maintenance and repairs. There are lots of undeleted 6.7s around, but everyone I know who has one past the 150k mile mark gets it deleted. I don't want that hassle!  I wish Gear Vendors (or similar) were a little more robust for trucks versus race cars - I see mixed reviews. I'd likely never use double OD, but splitting the other gears would be great!

[Mopar1973Man]

Personally I'd love to put a 5 speed in my 2006. Even with 3.73 gear you need to row 5 gears (1:1 direct) to get 25 MPH. I might change my mind after towing a trailer but lot of hand shaking in a town with 25 mph speed limit. Ugh.

[AH64ID]

On 6/17/2021 at 5:17 AM, LorenS said:

Me, neither. I tried an online VIN decoder to see if it's been converted for some reason, but no luck.

 

It's a short bed so it was born a SRW. 

 

4 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Personally I'd love to put a 5 speed in my 2006. Even with 3.73 gear you need to row 5 gears (1:1 direct) to get 25 MPH. I might change my mind after towing a trailer but lot of hand shaking in a town with 25 mph speed limit. Ugh.

 

You drive at under 1000 rpms around town? I think your failed tach is messing with your head  25 mph is squarely in the 3rd (2000) or 4th (1340) gear range. 

 

I'm certain you'll change your mind once you do some towing. Having driven and towed with a Getrag, NV4500, a NV5600, and a G56 AD, and driven a G56AE a bunch but never towed with it I'd never want to own a NV4500 truck, even for around town. I'd buy a clean 93 Getrag for fun, but it would likely get a G56 before too long. The difference is big empty and amazing when loaded. The Getrag was the best 5 speed but it had a splitter... 

[Blueox01]

On 6/16/2021 at 6:38 PM, Royal Squire said:

Not sure why it has DRW listed. 

Maybe because they're idiots?

[Rogan]

Downside to the G56 is noise, IMO.

 

[Mopar1973Man]

Thor (2006 Dodge  3500) has a G56 transmission is a rowing machine. Even with the ATF+4 in the gear box it not loud at all. I just hate to row 4 gears to get to 25 MPH. Pushing 10,000 pounds on the scale. Tends to stall easy launching from 2nd gear on a slight slope. Valair Quiet Towing Dual Disc Clutch.

 

No worse that the Kenworth 4,000 gallon water tender (Cummins Big Cam 400 with a Eaton Fuller 10 speed) that you have to row 7 gears to get to 25 MPH. 

 

Still to this day love my NV4500 in Beast (2002 Dodge 2500), row 2 gears I'm at 25 MPH in 4th gear. Launch in 2nd gear and by 4th (1:1) I'm pulling away gaining speed now. This even has the other Valair Performance Dual Disc Clutch. Slight design differences but the same. 

 

 

Edited July 11, 2021 by Mopar1973Man

[Rogan]

4 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

G56 is a rowing machine. Even with the ATF+4 in the gear box it not loud at all. I just hate to row 4 gears to get to 25 MPH. No worse that the 10 speed water tender (Cummins Big Cam 400 with a Eaton Fuller 10 speed) that you have to row 7 gears to get to 25 MPH. 

OE clutch?   Sure, it's quiet.   Put a DD in it, and it's a different animal when the stock flywheel is replaced.

 

[Mopar1973Man]

2006 Dodge 3500 - Valair Quiet Dual Disc Towing Clutch 

 

2002 Dodge 2500 - Valair Performance Dual Disc Clutch

 

The design differences is the Quiet clutch does not have a loose free floating center plate. It actually attached to spring metal. The performance clutch does not have this so it louder in my 2002 Dodge versus the 2006 Dodge. The 2002 Dodge has a floating center disc that can rattle and make noises. 

[Rogan]

the noise I'm referring to isn't the steel disc.  it's the gear-rollover of the G56, that the 5600/4500 doesn't suffer from.

This is caused by the stock DMF of the G56 being replaced.

 

[Mopar1973Man]

20 minutes ago, Rogan said:

the noise I'm referring to isn't the steel disc.  it's the gear-rollover of the G56, that the 5600/4500 doesn't suffer from.

This is caused by the stock DMF of the G56 being replaced.

 

Nope, no roll over noise at all no the 2002 or 2006 trucks. 

 

Mobil 50 SAE gear lube in the Nv4500 in the 2002 Dodge.

ATF+4 fluid in the G56 in the 2006 Dodge. 

Edited July 11, 2021 by Mopar1973Man

[Rogan]

2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Nope, no roll over noise at all no the 2002 or 2006 trucks. 

 

Mobil 50 SAE gear lube in the Nv4500 in the 2002 Dodge.

ATF+4 fluid in the G56 in the 2006 Dodge. 

You shouldn't in the NV4500.   My old 4500 with Valair 3650 DD didn't either.  Both the MC and the Crew Cab (G56 in both) have insane gear rollover noise.  Sitting idle, in neutral, and under load, sub 1500rpm.   The MC has a Valair 3600 DD and the CC has a SB3600DD.  The MC has 150k on it, the CC has 295k.  Put the same style clutch in my old 2004 5600 and no rollover noise; a quick search on googly shows I'm definitely not the only one.  It's weird.

[Mopar1973Man]

I remember my old Southbend Con OFE use to have gear rollover noise till I changed from stock 75w-85 trans fluid to Mobil 50 SAE trans fluid. As for the G56 it's still running ATF+4. Even that doesn't have the gear rollover.

[Rogan]

LOL  IDK what to tell you; I'm 2:2 on G56

GRO