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1. What is the best place to get a front hub assembly on a 2001 2wd 3500? Mine is howling like crazy and I suspect is part of the ABS problem I am having.

 

 

2. I looked but couldn't find what type of power steering fluid my truck needs. What brand or type of power steering fluid can I use? Synthetic? Availability? 

 

Sorry for the newb questions :)

 

 

Thanks in advance!

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I though you could pack/replace the bearings on the 2wd trucks?? Maybe I am wrong there. As for the P/S fluid, some people use ATF+4. I think it calls for actual powersteering fluid though. Most universal power steering fluids will work. I am going to start running the Amsoil P/S fluid next week. It meets chrysler's specs. I dont remember what the exact spec number is though...

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Me and another guy took  turkey basters and sucked out the old PS fluid several times after runs till it was changed over, nice and clear. We both used the Valvoline synthetic ps fluid and noticed smoother operation and the squeal at start up in cold temps was gone as well.

 

I know there was one report of a leak using ATF. When he changed over to actual PS fluid leak went away.

Edited by JAG1

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I use Supertech Power steering fluid and usually purge the system out by unhooking a return line and routing to a waste bucket. This way you flush both the steering box and the hydro-booster with fresh fluid instead of turkey baster method which doesn't flush the system out too well of debris. ATF is not suppose to be used in our systems. But 2003 and up was ATF IIRC.

 

Howling noise might be wheel bearings failing and would cause the ABS issues as well. The wheel bearing will lean over a bit and the tone wheel will be out of line with the ABS speed sensors. If you replace ABS sensors you MUST do them in pairs!

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as for Ram 3500- it is not a re-pack the bearings. it is big wheel bearing assembly that put on... I think it is 41mm socket and need big torque wrench to set it up. 

 

Ram 2500 are different as use common wheel bearings that do re-pack or replace it it is not look good or rough. 

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I use Supertech Power steering fluid and usually purge the system out by unhooking a return line and routing to a waste bucket. This way you flush both the steering box and the hydro-booster with fresh fluid instead of turkey baster method which doesn't flush the system out too well of debris. 

 

Howling noise might be wheel bearings failing and would cause the ABS issues as well. The wheel bearing will lean over a bit and the tone wheel will be out of line with the ABS speed sensors. If you replace ABS sensors you MUST do them in pairs!

I guess the supertech PS fluid meets Chrysler's specs?

 

Also it makes sense on the wheel bearing, but what is bothering me is how to locate the actual assembly and the best price. I found a few but they were $230+ for one assembly. 

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as for Ram 3500- it is not a re-pack the bearings. it is big wheel bearing assembly that put on... I think it is 41mm socket and need big torque wrench to set it up. 

 

Ram 2500 are different as use common wheel bearings that do re-pack or replace it it is not look good or rough. 

Ah geez that's not what I was wanting to hear but it is what it is I suppose. Torque specs by any chance? Or can I use the elbow torque method?

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I would buy a good name brand hub like Timken or such. They have some cheaper units out there that do not hold up very well under these heavy front ends.

Also on the power steering fluid Chrysler still does rerecommend Power Steering Fluid for the 94-02 trucks.

TSB 19-005-03

Power Steering Fluid Usage

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Date: Aug. 29, 2003

Models: 1994 - 2002 (BR/BE) Ram Pickup, 2002 - 2004 (DR) Ram Pickup

1993 - 2003 (AB) Ram Van

1994 - 2004 (AN) Dakota

1994 - 2002 (BR/BE) Ram Pickup

2004            (CS) Pacifica

1998 - 2004 (DN) Durango

2002 - 2004 (DR) Ram Pickup

1996 - 2000 (GS) Chrysler Voyager (nternational Markets)

1995 - 2000 (JA) Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze

2001 - 2004 (JR) Sebring Sedan, Stratus Sedan, Sebring Convertible

1996 - 2000 (JX) Sebring Convertible

2002 - 2004 (KJ) Liberty

2002 - 2004 (KJ) Cherokee (International Markets)

1993 - 2004 (LH) Concorde/Intrepid/Vision/LHS/New Yorker/300M

1996 - 2000 (NS) Town & Country/Voyager/Caravan

2002            (PG) Chrysler PT Cruiser (International Markets)

1995 - 2004 (PL) Neon

1997 - 2003 (PR) Prowler

2002 - 2004 (PT) Chrysler PT Cruiser

2001 - 2004 (RG) Chrysler Voyager (International Markets)

2001 - 2004 (RS) Town & Country/Caravan/Voyager

1993 - 2002 (SR) Viper/Viper Coupe

2001 - 2004 (ST) Sebring Coupe/Stratus Coupe

1997 - 2004 (TJ) Wrangler

2003 - 2004 (VA) Sprinter

1999 - 2004 (WG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets)

1999 - 2004 (WJ) Grand Cherokee

2003 - 2004 (ZB) Viper

2004            (ZH) Crossfire

Discussion:

The factory fill power steering fluid for most 2004 model year Chrysler Group vehicles is ATF+4 (MS9602) and it provides superior performance at both low and high temperatures. WJ/WG and ZH vehicles use unique power steering fluids. Refer to the table to identify factory fill and the approved service power steering fluid by year and model. Note that MS9602 is Red in color and MS5931 and MS9933 are Amber/Yellow in color. All three fluids will darken in color with usage and fluid color is no longer an indication of fluid condition.

The part numbers for MS9602 are 05013457AA (quart) and 05013458AA (gallon). The part number for MS5931 is 04883077 (quart). The part number for MB345 is 05127381AA.

MS9602 should not be mixed or used as a “topping off” fluid on systems requiring MS5931. On some past models, MS9602 should be used as the replacement fluid. On these models, if a power steering system is being serviced that results in a large fluid loss, such as a pump, hose or gear/rack replacement, the complete system should be drained and filled with MS9602.

NOTE: This bulletin supersedes owner’s and service manuals for the vehicles listed above that may state to use MS9933 in the power steering system, and that may state not to use automatic transmission fluid in the power steering system.

BODY YEAR FACTORY FILL

POWER STEERING FLUID APPROVED SERVICE

POWER STEERING FLUID

AB 1993 - 2003 MS5931 MS5931

AN 1994 - 2001

2002 - 2004 MS5931

MS9602 MS5931

MS9602

BR/BE 1994 - 2002 MS5931 MS5931

CS 2004 MS9602 MS9602

DN 1998-1999

2000 - 2001

2002 - 2003

  MS5931

MS5931 (built before June 1, 2001)

MS9602 (built June 1, 2001 or later)

MS9602 MS5931

MS5931

MS9602

MS9602

DR 2002 - 2004 MS9602 MS9602

GS 1996 - 2000 MS5931

MS5931

JA 1995 - 1998

1999 - 2000 MS5931

MS9933 MS5931

MS9602

JR 2001

2002 - 2004 MS9933

MS9602 MS9602

MS9602

JX 1996 - 1998

1999 - 2000 MS5931

MS9933 MS5931

MS9602

KJ 2002 - 2004 MS9602 MS9602

LH 1993 - 1997

1998 - 2001

2002 - 2004 MS5931

MS9933

MS9602 MS5931

MS9602

MS9602

NS 1996 - 2000 MS5931 MS5931

PG 2002 MS9602 MS9602

PL 1995 - 1998

1999 - 2000

2001

2002 - 2004

  MS5931

MS9933

MS9933 (built before June 5, 2001)

MS9602 (built June 5, 2001 or later)

MS9602 MS5931

MS9602

MS9602

MS9602

MS9602

PR 1997

1999

2000 - 2003 MS5931

MS9933

MS5931 MS5931

MS9602

MS5931

PT 2001

2002 - 2004 MS9933

MS9602 MS9602

MS9602

RG 2001

2002 - 2004 MS5931 (built before July 2, 2001)

MS9602 (built July 2, 2001 or later)

MS9602 MS5931

MS9602

MS9602

RS 2001

2002 - 2004 MS5931 (built @ Windsor before May 22, 2001)

MS9602 (built @ Windsor May 22, 2001 or later)

MS5931 (built @ St. Louis before June 4, 2001)

MS9602 (built @ St. Louis June 4, 2001 or later)

MS9602 MS5931

MS9602

MS5931

MS9602

MS9602

SR 1992 - 1998

1999 - 2000

2001 - 2003 MS5931

MS9933

MS5931 MS5931

MS9602

MS5931

ST 2001 - 2004 MMC MS9602

TJ 1997 - 2002

2003 - 2004 MS5931

MS9602 MS5931

MS9602

VA 2003 - 2004 MB341 MS9602

WG 1999 - 2004 MS5931 MS5931

WJ 1999 - 2004 MS5931 MS5931

ZB 2003 - 2004 MS9602 MS9602

ZH 2004 MB345 MB345

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I would like to thank Bob Bergevin, Arthur Cantrall, Barry Drodge, David Lovell, Bill Maurits, and Steve for supplying the information for these bulletins. And a big thank you goes to Geno's Garage for making DodgeRam.info possible.

 

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I replaced both front hub assemblies on my 01 and ordered the complete kits straight from Mopar for around $300 a piece.  The bearings that Mopar used in the kits that I recieved were Timken sets made in the USA.  I have no idea on the tourque values, but I used the same theory we always use on heavy haul low-boy hubs after new bearings which is tighten up snug to ensure that the assembly is firmly set into the races then back off on the nut until you get a slight stop of the wheel from a good hand turn.  This may be completely wrong but I have not had any issues with the new bearings yet and I have roughly 25,000 miles on them so far, nor do we have any issues on the trailer hubs we rebuild that carry heavy loads for a living.  Just my two cents.

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Is your truck a 2wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?

4wheel drive torque specs are 180 ft lbs. I am not for sure on the 2 wheel drive front end.

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Is your truck a 2wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?

4wheel drive torque specs are 180 ft lbs. I am not for sure on the 2 wheel drive front end.

2wd

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Probably not something anyone wants to do but in a pinch it seems to work... When putting the Lincoln back together after the timing cover replacement and reinstalling the power steering pump it howled like crazy (assuming because the pulley was such a s.o.b. to get off, it even broke the puller tool :mad: ). Anyway, since I figured I would be buying a new PS pump anyway I gave it a try :whistle: ...So I added  just a little bit of Lucas and low and behold it stopped the howling and jerkiness on the wheel :thumb1:  It seemed to cure the problem, then the head gasket blew :cry:  :cry:  The heads will come first and eventually I will replace the PS pump, but, in the meantime it will have to do... :ashamed:

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Is your truck a 2wheel drive or 4 wheel drive?

4wheel drive torque specs are 180 ft lbs. I am not for sure on the 2 wheel drive front end.

2wd heavy duty wheel bearings nuts are torque specific at 280 ft lbs.  good thing I has 3/4dr snap on torque wrench to do that. also the spindle nuts are not re-use!!!!! get new one nut....

Edited by Deafautotech

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280ft lbs???

I'll look in the service manual but getting new spindle nuts arrant uncommon. Almost all ford trucks are like that

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as for Ram 3500- it is not a re-pack the bearings. it is big wheel bearing assembly that put on... I think it is 41mm socket and need big torque wrench to set it up.

Ram 2500 are different as use common wheel bearings that do re-pack or replace it it is not look good or rough.

I thought there had to be something a lil beefier in a 3500 than a 2500. I'm not ready for that job. That front hub assembly was like a hundred pounds, at least that what it felt like when doing the Moog Problem Solver all 4 ball joint replacement a few years back. Truck is a tank!

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Just replaced all 4 Ball joints a couple of weeks ago and yes, the hub assembly I estimated at around 85-100#'s!!! It weighed more than 1 bag and felt more like 2 bags of horse feed!! (maybe a bit more :ashamed: ) 

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It's just difficult to hold it up w one hand. & get a bolt started w the other. It was even tough w 2 guys trying to do it. Two bags of horse feed or not!

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It was sort of flopping around, as a musician, I need my fingers intact! Rather would have a helper in an unsafe situation.

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