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Home Alignment for a straight axle truck
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After replacing some front end parts, I found that my previously aligned truck was steering horribly and needing a re alignment. I decided to try doing it myself rather than paying a local dude to do it for me. There are three measurements and specifications for an alignment. Caster, camber, and toe. You can google those terms for information, but this article will outline a procedure to adjust toe. Our trucks have a caster angle set which should be appropriate and as long as the control arm bushings are in good repair the angle should not change. Some like adding additional caster using the cams present in the rear mounts of the control arms. Camber is not adjustable on our trucks without special offset ball joints, and also should not need changed unless something is very out of whack or you are customizing your truck for a specific and rare application. Positive toe, with the wheels fronts pointing slightly inward, creates some stability in the steering and is generally desired. Negative toe, is generally bad and can create some touchy or downright dangerous handling. However, there are some guys who like a small amount of negative toe when towing heavy loads where the truck will squat. The reason for this is on early 3rd gen and older trucks, the steering linkage used a Y type link system (see figure 1) that will change the toe as a function of ride height. The newer trucks, or ones like mine that have an HD steering upgrade kit (see figure 2 & 3) the toe will not change as a function of ride height. If you haven't upgraded the steering to an HD type, I highly recommend it. Traditionally, many automotive manuals specified a toe angle in fractions of an inch with the intention for the mechanic to measure the toe at a specific point like on the front and rear of the tires. However, now they use degrees and give a specified angle. For our 2nd Gen Trucks, the OEM spec for steering toe is 0.10 degrees of total toe. Total toe is defined as the total angle of toe. Seems simple, right? So if the spec is 0.10 degrees of total toe, the right and left tire would be toed in at half that angle, at 0.05 degrees of toe (0.50 + 0.50 = 0.10). This is an important definition, so as to not put double or half the toe required. Professional shops use a light & laser system to measure the angles quickly and accurately. I used a Longacre wheel alignment kit, though you can make a similar kit with metal plates. For $60 delivered to my door, the Longacre plates were too easy to pass up. The system is essentially a plate and two tape measures. If you make your own, use two tape measures of the exact same brand and type. It will save you a lot of hassle. Also, if you can get tapes that have fine (1/16th or better) measurements up to 10 ft it will be helpful. The Longacre tapes have the fine measurements necessary to their full 10 ft length. Figure 1 Light Duty Steering Linkage Figure 2 Heavy Duty Steering Linkage Figure 3 Heavy Duty Steering Linkage Alignment Procedure Pull the truck straight ahead into the work area on a level hard surface. Don't use dirt. Don't turn the wheel. You want the tires to be straight and not twisted. Note: if it is WAY out of whack, turn the wheel until the passenger side tire is straight and then straighten the steering wheel with the upper sleeve (see part 4 on figure 2). Then jack up the passenger tire and get the drivers side tire eyeball close by adjusting the tie rod adjustment sleeve (see part 2 on above figure 2). Set the plates against the tires so that they are even and not uneven due to lettering or the usual bulge at the base of the tire. You may need to air the tire up some or play with the angle of the plates to make the bulge at the base of the tire minimal. Set up your tape measures and calculate the difference between the front and rear tape. I was very careful to keep the same amount of tension on each tape (two handed ordeal) and read off the measurements (see figure 4 & 5) Subtract the back from the front and compare to the attached tables Adjust the tie rod adjustment sleeve in or out towards your target measurement. Pull the truck ahead several feet to unload the twist in the tires (if you have big adjustments you can lift up the drivers side with a jack and dial in a big adjustment before returning to do fine adjustment) Keep measuring, adjusting, and pulling the truck ahead until it is aligned and the numbers are within spec. Lastly, recheck the steering wheel center, and fine adjust if necessary and tighten it all up. Figure 4 Figure 5 How to setup your plates Longacre plates, home made plates, or whatever, you need to know the distance between the two tape measures. Measure it and use the table attached to find the correct r value. Then measure with the tape measures between the plates. It is that simple. Notes: Your tie rod adjustment sleeve may be stiff. I replaced my entire linkage with the HD kit, but you may need to do a lot of fiddling with the sleeve with some penetrating oil and working it back and forth to get it free. Several techniques I didn't try were to use a bolt slightly larger than the gap on the tie rod to separate it, then remove and clean it then reassemble, get an expensive set of tie rod sleeve adjustment tools, or to use a lot of BIG wrenches and pipe wrenches. There is a key way/slot inside the sleeve between the two ends of the tie rod to keep them aligned and straight. See the HD steering article for more HD details. Tables are attached. Wheel Alignment Tables.pdf-
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Hey all! Back again with more questions lol. So I am wanting to replace the the 2 bars for steering (I get confused with what to call them my bad, tie rods I'm assuming?), steering box (planning to go with a blue top), sway bar, track bar, and possibly ball joints, alignment shop told me one or both had a little bit of play but told me I wouldn't have issues with tire wear. If there are parts I'm missing that I should replace, please tell me below! Tire wear has been fine I believe and its been about 5k miles. Need to rotate soon. I have a LOT of slop in the steering, possibly kind of dangerous at this point lol. Biggest question is what brand to go with for these components. I keep hearing on forums these days that Moog is sadly not what they used to be... I just don't want to spend a bunch of money and have parts go out in a year or less. I also do not want to spend a fortune. I also see talk about changing to the "Y" steering I believe and I'm open to that suggestion if its truly worth it and I don't have to make any holes bigger on components to upgrade and/or spend a lot more than what the stock steering setup replacement would cost. Also, when doing the steering box, how can I make sure the pump is clear of debris? It's a new pump and I'd like to re use it but I want to assure there isn't any debris in there so I don't damage the blue top. Will be buying new power steering lines as well. Planning to do it all on my own to save money and use the hobby shop on base here. If any of you know anyone semi close to Camp Lejeune, NC and they'd be willing to help, I'd love the help if I'm able to get it lol. Will definitely bring a 6 pack (or more) for that person. Also, how far can I safely drive after replacing these components to get it aligned? We have a firestone on base which would be a mile or 2 drive, off base location would be a minimum of probably 8-10 miles. Open to ANY and ALL suggestions! Thank you.
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I'm sure most of us are experiencing cold weather one way or another, and so I'm curious if you have had any problems related to steering/ hydroboost issues. Whenever it gets to the low teens or single digit temps, I start the truck in the morning, and fires right up, and you can hear and feel loud humming vibrations in the cab. It gets loud if I touch the brakes or turn the steering wheel, and you can definitely feel it vibrating through both. I figure something maybe with the hydroboost. It had been doing this for years, and I thought maybe a new steering pump would fix it, but it didn't.(needed to be replaced anyway.) Anyone else experiencing this issue? Going to the steering issue: I replaced my steering pump last spring with the one from genos. From day one, it felt under powered....but I thought maybe it would get better with time, maybe a little air in the system, despite a thorough bleeding and following the steps to get the air out.(also new lines to and from the the hydroboost. Even disconnected the return line from the steering box to get ALL the old fluid out.) Sitting in my truck now, operating temp and all, I cannot physically turn the steering wheel while the truck is standing in place, the tires won't budge.(265 75r 16 Michelin Defenders) I have to be moving ever so slightly to get some assistance to turn the wheels (increasing rpms does nothing to help either.) Does this sound right? this issue isn't because of cold weather, but it probably makes it worse. The pump has Redline full synthetic powersteering fluid in it. Here's the pump. https://www.genosgarage.com/product/BORG-800328/power-steering-pump
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Are there other years / generations besides Second Gen that have Loose Goose steering problems? Is there contineuity to it? Is it the Diesel & V10s that have this or across the product line? 2WD? 4WD? Should I throw in the towel & buy another brand truck? My ancient C30 never had this. Early 60s Jeep Wagoneer (rust bucket) with solid front axle (and Buick V8) never had this. WTF?
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Ok I posted a while back about some issues I was having with the hydroboost system. The power steering pump went out and I replaced it. Then the hydroboost started making lots of noise, and shuddering when the brakes were applied. I would lose power steering altogether at an idle, but all this only happened after about 5 minutes of driving. Today I finally broke down and swapped the hydroboost I still have the same problems.... I'm at my wits end here wit this thing! I don't know what else to do. Btw it an 01 2wd.
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Situation: Beginning a new job soon with 145 mile daily commute on hilly, curvy roads. Limited snow and ice. Truck still has play in steering, poor OEM lights, and mileage is sadly around 12mpg the last time I calculated it. Steering was some improved after addition of Luke's Link, but at highway speeds of 70mph the truck required me to keep 2 hands on the wheel to make sure I had control at all times. Truck: ’99 Quad Cab w/8 ft bed. Installed lower(?) balls joints on both sides a couple years ago, er...had installed. Installed Luke’s Link on OEM track bar Aug 2015 as I put on new tires and it could be aligned due to slop in the front end. Goal: 1st is safety. That means I have to see when I’m in the dark. It also means that I have to be able to keep the truck on the road with all the curves. I want to do what I can, within reason, beyond just keeping the foot off the pedal to improve the fuel economy (I know I’m not going to get huge increases, but even 2-3mpg would be great). Plan of Action: 1st, I’m going to crawl under the truck and make sure the Luke’s Link is still tight and see if any other components are loose. I’m no front suspension expert, so any pointers or directing me to specific threads would be great. There is almost TOO much info to sift through sometimes. 2nd, I have spoken with Daniel Stern about lighting. I’m going to install a 12ga harness for the lights to give them the full amperage they deserve. I’m also going to replace the OEM bulbs with Phillips improved 9004’s. When I get the money, I will then replace the OEM light housing with the OEM Sport Housing. Daniel convinced me to stick with the engineered components for longevity and reliability. I’m toying with the idea of adding some of further lighting like Mike did, but only after I have everything up and running the way it ought to be. Btw, my stock lights are about as hazed as can be. I know it isn’t great, but may try and sand them for a temporary minor improvement while I wait to get the money to order my sport housings. Question: What more do I need to do to get safe for all the hills and curves right now? Am I needing to replace track bar with HD version and that will improve steering/handling? I know I need a fuel pump ASAP and gauges, but those aren’t safety issues. I need them soon, as this truck has over 150k on the original VP44. But the front end and steering are what really has me a bit concerned. I know we all have lots of irons in the fire, but with everyone’s experience I hoped to save some time by at least having you point me to “go that way” rather than learning all aspects of the front end on a short time frame. Thanks for the help!!
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I went out and had some fun in my truck this weekend and now the power steering is acting up. I can't turn the wheels easy up less im on the throttle and i checked it for fluid and it is full still. is the pump starting to go out now?
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So I've been waiting to do a few things to the truck before I brought this up. I have done some searches and found some things on some other diesel sites and it seems common to the 2nd gen 4x4 trucks. My truck pulls to the right fairly consistently. I noticed it the first day , the outside right front tire is showing scrub marks and wear. I got an alignment this week at a pretty good local shop- they said it was pretty close, only a toe adjustment. Today , I swapped front tires side to side, replaced the original steering stabilizer and the two front shocks. It now rides smoother and isn't so fast to wander, but still pulls right. Next is going to be swapping out the front calipers- but changing parts on this truck isn't exactly cheap. Anyone else dealt with this?
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Hello. Looking to tighten up the front end on my 01' with 225k due to steering wheel play and a little slop. Question I have, do you guys recommend replacing the pitman arm, tie rod, steering damper, track bar, control arms, etc or should I just replace the bushings and any worn out parts? Trying to not break the bank but at the same time I dont want to end up doing the work only to find all new parts were a better route for this repair...Thanks!
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So my steering has s*cked for a long time, and the other night I took it to a mechanic I feel is pretty good and knowledgeable. He checked my truck all over in the front to see what was making it wander so bad. Poped the tie rods off, checked balls joints for play and sticking, drivers side perfect, no sticking, pass side a bit up and down but no sticking. Trak bar, universal joints in the axles, tie rod, etc all good. I have the steering brace, etc. His conclusion (he drove it also), steering box was really tight feeling and a very very small bit of play in the shaft. Bearing up in the column had no play he said.. He could find nothing else wrong so he thinks put a box on it. So i'm goling to order the Borgenson and a shaft while i'm doing it. Now my question is, I am looking on the net where i'm going to order from and i'm a bit unclear... some say they are rebuilt boxes, some say brand new. Some say they have 14:1 ratio, Geno's garage claims his are 13:1 . Can someone give me the details on these boxes ? Are there two types that can be bought, are the brand new, rebuilt or what? Anyone have the full specs on them, piston size, shaft size, turns lock to lock etc? Appreciate any ino because I want to order one in the next couple of days. Thanks
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Just recently my steering started to produce a clicking noise. It only seems to happen at slow speeds and maybe its just me but feels like its getting sloppier. I can also feel the clicking in the steering wheel. Any ideas?
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I am going to try and get a thread going showing all the components on the truck that aren't part of the engine (since I know we have many diagrams throughout the site showing that). I will start with steering and add stuff as I think of it. Here are all the Steering and Suspension components. This is on a 1997 2500 2wd, I will get pics up of 4wd steering components when I get some. Thanks for the help AH64ID! I just got 4wd pics now but I guess there is a 10 pic limit so scroll down to my next post for them.
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