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[keydl]

That is a challenge that aproches getting a dozen or so swabbies with no math training to wrap their heads around the weapons fire control problem. The ship is bobbing up and down while underway and the plane is going to try and guess where the shell will go so he won't be there. Problem is to see 18 seconds into the future so the plane and shell get close.keydl

[Mopar1973Man]

Er Um Ahh... :confused: You got me... :confused

[keydl]

In the Navy I was with both forms of 'fire control' - 5 trips to damage control fire school. The last at Pearl where the had a very interesting toy. A foam generator carried by 2 that generated over 4k cubic feet of detergent foam a min. With a truck sized unit you ought to be able to lay fire line at a rapid rate. A 50 foot high wall of foam that lasts up to an hour or a lump of foam on a house.For an oil fire in a compartment it was amazing, put 1/4 inch of bunker fuel on the deck and wait until the fire gets to the other side door, then run up and pull the string to start the engine while the second man connects the hose and sets the tank in place. Open the hatch and poke the nozzle in and the foam runs out the other side in 1 1/2 min from the time that they let you start.The downside - that fire training chamber is out of use for drills until the next day. And everything is by braille until the foam is gone. No need for soap to wash up and goggles are required.It would be difficult to do a kitchen fire without filling 1 or 2 other rooms but the water damage is 2-3 quarts of water and detergent mix.I haven't heard anything since about it after '70 so the patent is probably gone.keydl

[Mopar1973Man]

Now that's fun... I've done that with our older military fire truck. We where dropping foam mix in the water tank and open up the deck cannon... Instant snow! LOL As for your stuff was it the older protein foam??? We still got a few containers of that in my storage shed... 8|

[keydl]

The blood foam was unpleasant to work with and bad to cleanup for the next class.The 1 L bottle would have washed cloths, it was on a rack with 2 5 gal of water and 2 5 ft flex ducts and a 'nozzle' to go in the door crack. The other was a gas powered blower. You run up to the door with the 85 # blower and get it running while the other sets the rack with water and detergent on the blower, hooks up the 2 pieced of flex to the blower and usually the nozzle thing. You set a brace on the hatch so it does not slap you silly from pressure in the compartment and the other fellow pokes the nozzle in. when it gets dark you ease in and find the dummies. The last time they were using 2 hundred # steel mesh bags of gravle that were laced togather with wire rope.The guy that ran that session was still burned from the Kittyhawk, when they pushed a bunch of planes over the side and lost some people. Rumor was loose ordinace on the flight deck. I have forgotten most of it, but the Prov was in the group when it happened.That package seemed to me to be the nearly perfect thing for vol fire crews, even 1 person - run up with the rack and go back for the blower and be finished in 6 min before a full crew gets there. Mount one on a brush truck and stop a grass fire.If the company did not survive, the patent should be deadkeydl