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CLorox started following Fuel pressure offset / calibration? and Torque Converter Lock / Unlock Issues
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Torque Converter Lock / Unlock Issues
Realizing I am replying to a thread old enough to be a nice aged single malt scotch... I wanted to share my experiences on the off chance it helps the next guy looking through this thread. I similarly have lit off the parts cannon trying to address this. I applied the w-t mod, cleaned / replaced grounds, re-crimped a ton of cables (+1 to the cheapo hydraulic Crimpers you can now get for short money on Amazon). I replaced the OSS, found a completely unrelated MAP sensor short, replaced the alternator (Nation's alt), cleaned alternator grounds / bolts, made new double strapped battery cables. Nothing helped. I have learned a lot, including..... that even with the alternator B+ and field wires disconnected, lockup issues STILL happen. I can't spot any AC leakage with my multimeter with alternator hooked up or unhooked. My triple disc TC was demonstrating no end of issues at both 2-3 and 3-4. It was the wild west of surging and other erratic shifts and surges between 25 and 60mph (seemed kind of happy around 70/75mph). NO codes. TPS according to Quadzilla data logs looked fine (not dropping out at all). Here is what worked to me (with thanks to Scott at Massdiesel.com as I was honestly pooh-poohing adding a noise filter on after doing the w-t mod). Even with the alternator cables disconnected I still encounter noise on the APPS causing lock/unlock. I have no idea where it originates and I'll leave it the brilliant minds here to provide a better explanation as to what voodoo happens with the APPS between the ECM and PCM... Putting that simple little capacitor/noise filter on pin 23 (orange/dark blue) of C1 at the PCM fixed my issue (at least for today) when connected to the cleaned up PCM ground (with alternator wires disconnected and connected). NOTHING else fixed it or improved it. So maybe it comes back (probably).. But that has to indicate something is going on causing noise that is not the alternator (or blower motor/compressor). Funny side note. While tracing the issue I also found I had a MAPS short in two places. One in the Quadzilla adapter for the 99 trucks, and another in the harness off the ECM. That was causing simultaneous to the lockup issue, an issue with fueling falling flat on its face while building boost (e.g. the ECM/Quadzilla would see 10psi boost and have it drop instantly to 0psi randomly).That caused even more surging. I am running without the MAP hooked to the Quadzilla while awaiting a replacement cable.. The surging that caused while towing a trailer with moderate engine load was contributing to the TC lock/unlock dance. ------------------ 2024-10-26.. Final (hopefully) edit. It has been a few months since I wrote/edited this the first time. I'll leave the original text as I thought it might be beneficial to others in the troubleshooting process. My issue was... likely as everyone always says... not resolved in any meaningful way by that filtering capacitor. My issue stemmed from at least two confounding variables. Some time after I wrote this, I experienced a much more significant no-start/stall issue when the engine was even slightly warm. During the no-start I was also seeing ECM issues including a delayed or non-existent wait-to-start light + lift pump circuit failing to stay running. Suspected root causes: 1) I added a bad ground when doing the W-T mod at the step with the m6 bolt at the back of the gear case. My connection was somehow loose enough to cause the stall issue, but tight enough to not impact performance consistently. Wiggling that ground while the engine was running I found I could stall the motor... I ended up re-terminating this new ground directly to the drivers side battery. This corrected the issue with stalling. This may not have had anything to do with my original Torque Converter issue , but was likely the source of my stall / no-start issue and may have lead to further ECM death. 2) My ECM ultimately had hardware issues. Using a micropod DRB iii clone/emulator (highly recommend!) I spotted an erratic issue with a high RPM value that was not originating from the CKP sensor. This was causing a few odd behaviors. 1) random cruise control cutouts (cause according to the drbiii was high rpm). I also saw some odd fluctuating voltage readings on the APPS sensor. I suspect one or both of these items were the real cause of the TC lock/unlock. I sent the ECM to Auto Computer Specialists and they noted several issues (Comms issues to lift pump, lift pump and app circuit shorted, bad wait to start, 5v reference issue, 9.5v reference issue). They replaced several drivers, circuits, a flash chip, and resoldered the cpu and 50 pin connector. Correcting these two items appears to have fixed all of my electrical gremlin problems entirely. During troubleshooting, and as a courtesy to my newly repaired ECM, I also took the opportunity to wire in a relay for the lift pump. This had the side benefit of making pump priming a much more pleasant experience (as I can just jump the relay to prime my pump now and do away with the key-start bump dance). Happy to have the truck running great. I hope I didn't wear my triple disc TC too badly during the lockup hunting issue.
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Fuel pressure offset / calibration?
I have tried a few different 0-100PSI fuel pressure sensors and they all seem to read low (including the official fuel pressure sensor from Quad). Is there a calibration or offset for the fuel pressure sensor values (or could we get one as an enhancement request?) My edge was reading around 20PSI at idle after the fuel filter, a mechanical gauge is within a couple psi of that value, but I can't seem to find a 0-100psi sensor read from the Quad that reads higher than 10psi. Maybe my luck is bad (3 different 0-100psi sensors all disagreeing with the mechanical gauge, and each other).
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