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That is what I initially thought. I am not 100% sure now when I pulled the cover off I took photos. Rear of the cover: this is the front of the cover: While I am in there........ I have the "updated case" with the step up around the KDP. Everyone freaks about the KDP and says do it anyways... but really w/ the updated case it is even necessary? Someone said in his 1999 24v KDP got him.... yea b/c it didn't have the updated case.

I just hope my gear housing isn't cracked. He had those bolts in over 75ft lbs. Also got all kinds of ultra black on the threads before putting them in which can cause hydro locking and cracking of the cover according to another tech. I told the service guy (not manager... that comes wednesday) that this guy basically grenaded my truck. he literally caused more damage than the truck is worth if he cracked the gear case.

i called. so funny. they said one is aftermarket and they are the "same." i asked if it comes w/ the depth tool. crickets. For the money, i will order both. practice set! thanks guys. #frustrated holy crap just realized ur ebay link! sweet! ur my friggin parts hero man! i ordered two just to be safe. would be funny as hell if he put the aftermarket one in a cummins box. would be my life.

lol yea i was doing that as i typed. cummins was like "we stopped making that in 2007." i had to get my engine serial number and give them the part number i thought was right (3802820) before they confirmed it was right. *face palm this is funny... http://www.dieselpartsdirect.com/DS3802820 20 dollars... or 124 dollars.... same product descriptions. man this is so frustrating.

it's kinda like which kit though. cummins has one. mahle has one. tst or something like that has one. i guess cummins is the best option, but the dealer doesnt have a part # on it.

It gets better. not only did he damage the timing cover... he marred the surface of the crank. i don't know where to go from here. I am stuck. This one is the most upsetting. I can't even get a seal on here w/o sharp metal cutting it. I assume I have to file this down, but it still leaves big pits. I seriously have no clue where to go from here. I see this: http://puredieselpower.com/dodge-products/03-07-dodge-5.9l-cummins-front-crank-seal-with-speedy-sleeve.html I was honestly thinking of using this autozone sleeve. use a little bearing mount to mount it to the crank. then use the stock cummins seal over it. http://www.autozone.com/internal-engine/crankshaft-seal/duralast-crankshaft-seal/dodge/ram-2500-3-4-ton-2wd/2001/6-cylinders-7-5-9l-turbo-diesel/630211_726041_4222/?checkfit=true I saw this on another thread.... is this thing even seated far enough back? Does the seal run along the backside lip or anywhere on the "repaired" sleeve portion. I assume the later.

yup. he did every possible thing wrong. I saw the other thread on here about the seal. my only issue is everyone seems to use a different seal with sleeve. I will probably have to once I see the crank tmrw. we all agree... seal installed in cover first? I read somewhere depth doesn't matter as long as ur not in an existing groove.

First, my question. I have her all torn down to the point where I just have to remove the timing cover. Fingers crossed no grooves on crank. 222K on the clock. I bought a cummins seal at the dealer. Says cummins on the part. Question..... which way is OUT? Logic tells me this side should face INWARD towards the crank: And this side OUTWARD facing away from the crank: Reasoning, the second picture has a rotational marker. when facing you it is clockwise. when facing the front of the truck, the crank turns clockwise. Why am I asking? bc the plastic alignment piece is conical (cone shaped). you have to pull tight from the front and it will actually expand the inside of the seal out a good bit. i assume this is so the seal will fit over the crank shaft nose. You would literally have to pull this cone through the seal by pulling it up through the seal in this photo correct? btw, I am doing this via the dodge service manual which says install in the cover first. i have no depth tool so i am going to have to wing it and hope. this is what the dealer did to me...... twice. he put it in the wrong way and not only did he do that he put on gray silicone rtv on both the inside and outside of the seal. no no no no no! right hand side of the photo also broke the lip the seal goes into. before i took this apart he told me to buy a new cover b/c he thinks it was warped. ummmm.... or u broke it. This one you can see how this is really installed backwards: moparman you may know this thread from another forum. i got banned b/c i was upset and cursed with stars to filter the words. no warning no nothing. just banned. still need help though. this has been going on for 4 months.