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Was hoping to get some insite here. My truck wanders all over as If I was truck. It is amazing I havent been pulled over yet. It makes you tired driving on a trip as you are constantly trying to compensate to keep the truck going straight. Its not like a steering wheel play problem but it acts in a similar way. Today I put the new Borgeson steering box on, no help. I have run the tires at 35, 50 and 60, no better.I have new moog ball joints, and track bar, new tires, alignment. My truck has 60,000 miles. It is a 2001 2500 SLT 4 x 4. It does have the big ARB bumper and large winch. Also, it has new front shocks. Any ideas? Mark

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well i just broke down and ordered a new box and shaft all i can do is hope for the best...:pray:

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interesting note. although its not perfect, if you stare farther down the road instead of right in front of your truck, it seems to make a difference. It seems stupid but try it. Mark

i have probably put 1500 miles on the truck since i change the gearbox(oe replacement from oreilly's), pitman arm, and added the steering brace. after i changed the parts, ACME Wheel aligned the front for $35. truck tracks straight down the road, but the new box is soooo touchy. there is not a "dead zone" in the middle. i can actually feel it break one way, straighten it out and it breaks the other way. i feel like i am ether left or right(even if it is very slight). i wish i had the extra $330 to spring for the borg box, but i'm hoping my cardone replacement last another 180k with the pitman shaft support.it did take my 700 miles to get use to how tight the steering is!:thumb1:

well just dropped off the truck for the install and noted to check the alignment specs as per the above mentioned specs just in case they are not already on that.

Fantastic!!! That is a great upgrade the fast ratio is great the the new box has made the steering much easier and smoother. I did a shaft with it so no more clunk either. I honestly wish i would have started here before i did my ball joints to see because this has finally taken that slack feeling i had at the 12 o clock position and that same area was a "dead spot" where little or no reaction to steering input was which caused the steering to be unpredictable. Some said they did not notice the issue and I did not really until after driving it for a while. Anyway the Borgeson box and Shaft was a great thing for me and my truck.

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Yes, the Borgesson is now the one to go with as the others GM issued 3.3 turns are just about impossible to get anymore.

For the record, I have all of the sugested repairs - Moog ball joints & tie rods, Thuren 3rd gen track bar, steering brace, rocksolid bushing, had AGR boxes (4 failed) and I now have a Cardone box that a shop gave me lifetime warranty parts & labor. I liked the valving of AGR in that it turned smooth (well, all except the 1st). Problem with AGR is poor quality control. The 1st box wasn't smooth, the 2nd & 3rd dropped the lock ring & seal causing sudden loss of brakes and power steering. Glad I was going slow. I got stuck with 2 $100 tow bills and was having shop do installs so paid labor also. Final AGR box wound never return to center. I blamed it on alignment. Box is on the shop floor waiting on when I need a core. Cardone box doesn't steer precisely. I'm going to replace it under warranty & see if the next is better. If not, I'll try RedheadSteering. I talked to the guy & he says they fit over sized ballbearings to take out the slop. They measure for each bearing. He also makes a 3 1/2 turn box & says that the heavy steering feeling is because of the valving used. Truck drives straight, just not precise. Imprecision is in the box. I used to have a wander. Then I read to drop the tire pressure & now run 65# all around (2500, not 3500). FWIW, tires are Yokohama Geolander ATs. Until I dropped pressure, I was trying to fix wander by adding caster. I now believe that ~ 3* is enough. I bought a lifetime alignment for $130 & put the truck on the rack everytime I get a tire balance. Firestone mechanics aren't the best but I can get a print out & machine use is free. On the other hand, I'm geting tired of fixing this thing & may sell it. Damn, most things are done. Oh well, I'll think again tomorrow.

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Welcome To Mopar1973Man.Com LLC

We are privately owned, with access to a professional Diesel Mechanic, who can provide additional support for Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel vehicles. Many detailed information is FREE and available to read. However, in order to interact directly with our Diesel Mechanic, Michael, by phone, via zoom, or as the web-based option, Subscription Plans are offered that will enable these and other features.  Go to the Subscription Page and Select a desired plan. At any time you wish to cancel the Subscription, click Subscription Page, select the 'Cancel' button, and it will be canceled. For your convenience, all subscriptions are on auto-renewal.