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OK Guy's.."The moment you've all been waiting for" Here is a complete start to finish Details on Converting Standard 2-headlight system to a Sport Quad headlight sys. i did a few months ago

Let me tell you it was a P.I.T.A...i had nothing to go on as none of the threads i found on any of the forums involved building your own from scratch "w/Heavy Duty Stuff" ..most of the write ups were people who had bought a pre-wired harness..like the ones for example suvlights.com or others..all reported problems either "fog lights staying on..lights would not turn off, lights would not come on or lights were dim on bright, etc...  So not finding any information in relation to a possiable wiring diagram i purchased a "pre-made harness w/relays from LMC..What a piece of shi$$..i mean lets totally forget that it did not work,{ lights went out or "almost out on Dimm}...this was chineese junk a frigg'n fire hazzard. :cookoo:.cheap light gauge wire i could bite into. connectors that "pulled out after unplugged a time or two..and last but not least.."NO SOLDERED CONNECTIONS, ALL CRIMPED AND "NO HEAT SHRINK.

 

   See none of these aftermarket harness's will work on these Trucks neither the Chinese "JUNK" nor the other decent harness's...."WHY"  :shrug: you ask... :smart: ..Because no one { that i was able to find } has been able or have taken the time to "Crack This system" and build a precise fit "PLUG AND PLAY" HARNESS ".  The 2nd GEN Dodges have a ODD wiring system, I Call it {for lack of a better term} Ground Switching System because thats what it does. It switches the ground Neg-  instead of the POS+.. The original wiring has a hot wire to Headlight plug that HOT 24/7..all the time.

 

    SO..after tryin to get around it..I started designing & building my own system. and with much help from..MICHAEL "MOPAR MAN" i eventually completed my own system.."NOW..Im passing this information on to you guys because the lights on these trucks "SUCK"..and this is an Awesome improvment that....well :stuned:..you will have to see for your self.....AND......I DONT WANT NO ONE TO GO THRU WHAT I WENT THRU BUILDING MINE ..L.M.A.O. :smart::broke:
 

 ***note***  I soldered all my connections & used heat shrink tubing to make a moisture free system. I also harnessed all the wires in split wire loom conduit 

 

 

thanks Michael   :thumb1: 


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 Below is the Parts list complete with part numbers & prices. except for the fuse holders, I got most all parts from 

 you can find these parts at most auto or electronic's stores and they don't have to be these brands either but i suggest using quality relays w/holders to make replacement easy. 

 

   

 

COMPLETE PARTS LIST for HD HEADLIGHT HARNESS (sport HL)

***note***  This Parts list is for reference only.. Vendor, Manufacture & Brands are open to your preference 

 

 

   2-male headlight connector (same as bulb)............................................#CP9004CM..............7.49ea.

 

   2- Ceramic female 9004 Connectors                                                       #CP9007CFC.............7.49ea

 

   2-Ceramic female 9007 Connectors.......................................................#CP9004CFC.............7.49ea

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   4-HELLA SPST Relays, 40A, Dual 87 outs, .............................................#HL87483...............8.00ea. 

 

   **Option**   4-SPST HELLA Relays, 40AMP, Dual 87 outs, with Diode.............................#HL87753..........13.00ea.   NO LONGER AVAILABLE    

   **Option**   4-SPST HELLA Relays, 30AMP, Dual 87 outs, with Diode..............................#HL87453..........8.00ea.     Available @ ralleylights.com

 

****** Note******* It is not mandatory to use the ones with diodes or resistors, it just helps insure safety for stereo sys, CB & The entire electronic system from EF Feedback.. You could use 30amp relays as you are using separate low and high beam circuits.

                In the beginning i was originally trying to use only 2 Relays, 1 on each side. I found out later this to be "IMPOSSIBLE" . YOU MUST HAVE 4-RELAYS..  You can use ones with single 87 out and wire together,, the Dual 87 out just makes a nice clean wiring system and i hat cobbled up wiring

 

 

 

   4-Relay Holders, complete with terminals....................................................#HL87123.................3.77ea.

​I Strongly recommend using Holders, it will make changing a relay out as easy as changing a fuse if you should ever have to

 

  I got the fuse holders from Advance Auto....."Bussmann Inline, 12ga. wires............#BP/HUU...................5.49ea.

 

  

   

        I got the Dodge OEM Sport Headlight assembly's @ http://www.factorymopar.com they are a Dodge dealer with online OEM parts. there prices are way below local Dealership.

                             Sport Headlight Assembly's  :

                             price=  233.64.. left side

                                         225.38 ..right side

 

 There are Cheeper Options for the The Sport Headlights but be forewarned of the cheap knockoffs and there problems like "leaking", , not very good fitment or alignment, ,poor quality Adjusters that make adjustment difficult or impossible>>>

"This is important cause you will have to dial these in and insure the Beam is to the left on LOW BEAM Driver side as to keep from blinding oncoming Cars.    "The OEM Lights are pretty close out of the box "..  

    A salvage yard would probably be a good source if you could find any thats not damaged.

 

   

                                      

 

 

 

**UPDATE PLEASE READ **

   I have had several Guys PM me asking why is it that there HB indicator light stays burning even on LB...most of the time this issue is caused by wires being in wrong location on one of the Headlight plugs .  A weak GROUND circuit will also cause this,  :doh: You have to have a solid -GND circuit to the Headlight connectors. I used the spare Side post Terminal's on my OPTMA RED TOP BATTERIES POS+ & GND - post.  BUT: There is a Post on front inner fender just below the Battery, there is a Solid 8# wire that runs from there that goes to Neg- post  battery terminal on battery so this is as good as going straight to Neg without having a bunch of wires hanging off of your Battery causing mores battery issues in the future.. But first be sure it is solid and clean,, if not solid and free from corrosion then replace it.

 

The other cause would be that you have a wire in the wrong place on the back of one or more H L connectors or in the conversion plug itself.

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  • got the driver side done then ran out of time. so will finish the passenger side tomarrow. just the one side is much better the the standard headlights. and wile i was at it i done the fog light mod a

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    I converted my headlight system to the sport package system last July.  I chose to use two fuses and four relays for the following reasons:   *  one fuse and two relays per side for safety

  • sportheadlights have four bulbs!!!

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well i got the driver side done so far other then putting on wire loom conduit. but now i have to order another male connector since i busted one of the pins. my fault never done one before. but by the second one had it figured out.so now have to wait for the second male connector to come. but i'm getting there. not as hard as i thought it would be. i hate automotive wiring lol.

Found a harness through Genos for around 150 bucks. Everything Ive ever ordered through them has been of very good quality, so I think I may order one in the next few weeks. Just shelled out over 900 bucks in parts on the wifes trailblazer, so it wont be this week :banghead: http://www.genosgarage.com/Brite-Box/products/9/

hey man im fixin to start this mod on my truck and was just wondering about the part list. should it be 2male headlight connector cp9004cm and i seen another member jmerritt posted another link for the relays hl87453 and was just making sure that was the right one. thanks for your help and your breakdown on this project

hey man im fixin to start this mod on my truck and was just wondering about the part list. should it be 2male headlight connector cp9004cm and i seen another member jmerritt posted another link for the relays hl87453 and was just making sure that was the right one. thanks for your help and your breakdown on this project

yes you need to order 2 male cp9004cm connectors. one for each side. as for the relays be advised. you can use those relays in the parts list. only place i found them was amazon. but fair warnning they are expensive they are $40 each! and you need 4 of them witch comes out to $160 + shipping. and thats just for the relays nothing else! :duh: here is the link for the relays i used and are only $8 each. and were about $32 instead. http://www.rallylights.com/SearchResult.aspx?KeyWords=hl87118

Found a harness through Genos for around 150 bucks. Everything Ive ever ordered through them has been of very good quality, so I think I may order one in the next few weeks. Just shelled out over 900 bucks in parts on the wifes trailblazer, so it wont be this week :banghead: http://www.genosgarage.com/Brite-Box/products/9/

just my opinion, but those wire gauges on that thing look kinda chinsy.
:cool:

Are you telling me your for hire? :whistle:

:thumbup2: Two of us are already on board. You gonna make it three? :)

If Rogan is game, I would rather send money his way than to someone I dont know. :pray:

question? i got the driver side harness done. so i went and plugged it in to test it. it dimms up and down ok. but only problem is it is backwards of what it is spose to be? basicly when the blue high beem indecator is on in the dash its on low beem. and when the indecator is off its on high beem? what do i need to check?

nevermind got it figured out. 2 wires were backwards. fixed now.

When funds allow, I will be getting with Rogan for a harness.:thumbup2:Whether he likes it or not!:moon::lmao2:

no worries :)

got the driver side done then ran out of time. so will finish the passenger side tomarrow. just the one side is much better the the standard headlights. and wile i was at it i done the fog light mod as well.post-12433-138698196783_thumb.jpg

got mine completly done. other then maybe adjusting the headlight lens as they are new. can't tell where the low and high beem pattern spose to be? they look same too me just blinks. other that high beem is little brighter?i have another question if one wanted one set of bulbs for the low(9004) and the other one for high beem(9007)another words so there not on at the same time. like the suv lights were since you can't buy them anymore. how would one modify the wiring harness??

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OK Guy's.."The moment you've all been waiting for" Here is a complete start to finish Details on Converting Standard 2-headlight system to a Sport Quad headlight sys. i did a few months ago

Let me tell you it was a P.I.T.A...i had nothing to go on as none of the threads i found on any of the forums involved building your own from scratch "w/Heavy Duty Stuff" ..most of the write ups were people who had bought a pre-wired harness..like the ones for example suvlights.com or others..all reported problems either "fog lights staying on..lights would not turn off, lights would not come on or lights were dimm on bright, etc...

So not finding any information in relation to a possiable wiring diagram i purchased a HD "pre-made harness w/relays from LMC..What a piece of shi$$..i mean lets totally forget that it did not work,{ lights went out or "almost out on Dimm}...this was chineese junk a frigg'n fire hazzard.:cookoo:.cheap light gauge wire i could bite into. connectors that "pulled out after unplugged a time or two..and last but not least.."NO SOLDERED CONNECTIONS, ALL CRIMPPED AND "NO HEAT SHRINK:spend:

SO..after tryin to get around it..I started designing & building my own system. and with much help from..MICHAEL "MOPAR MAN" i eventually completed my own system.."NOW..Im passing this information on to you guys because the lights on these trucks "SUCK"..and this is an Awesome improvment that....well :stuned:..you will have to see for your self.....AND....................I DONT WANT NO ONE TO GO THRU WHAT I WENT THRU BUILDING MINE ..L.M.A.O.:smart::broke:

thanks Michael:thumb1:

Check out link below:

Slideshow

http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/rburks1/Dodge%20Sport%20Quad%20Headlight%20Conversion/?albumview=slideshow

Pictures

http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc389/rburks1/Dodge%20Sport%20Quad%20Headlight%20Conversion/

O.K Guys..Here is a Parts list complete with part numbers & prices. except for the fuse holders, I got all my parts from "Susquehanna Motorsports" http://www.rallylights.com phone# 1-610-944-3233

[*]1-male headlight connector (same as bulb)...............................................#CP9004CM..............7.49ea.

[*]4-Ceramic female 9004/9007 Connectors.......................................................#CP9004CFC.............7.49ea.

[*]4-HELLA Relays, 40A, Dual 87 outs, with Diode.............................................#HL87453...............13.22ea. Option" 4-HELLA Relays, 40A, Dual 87 outs, without Diode.............................#HL87453.................8.00ea.

[*]4-Relay Holders, complete with terminals....................................................#HL87123.................3.77ea.

I got the fuse holders from Advance Auto....."Bussmann INline, 12ga. wires............#BP/HUU...................5.49ea.

In all of this i forget to mention," I soldered all my connections & used heatshrink tubing to make a moisture free system. I also harnessed all the wires in split wire loom conduit that can be found im most electrical stores and some parts stores such as Autozone and NAPA..

well..thats about it..Good Luck and remember "HAVE FUN WITH IT":thumbup2:

Richie

is there any way to do high and low beam hids with quad headlights

You guys finding the hella relays with diodes? When I was looking I ran into a dead end.

is there any way to do high and low beam hids with quad headlights

Sure, but your light output would suck for oncoming drivers, as the Sport headlights do not refract the HID lighting properly. HIDs are designed to be in a concentrated lens.
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Just got me a set of Sports... YAY!!! One question here... why is there a need to have 4 relay's.?.?. "A 100 watt bulb draws about 100w/12v=8.5ish amps." right.?.?. and my "stock" bulbs are not 100 watts each sooooo... is it just good over kill to do a relay per light... voltage drop... etc.?.?. Ralleylights.com doesn't show the diode relay anymore... they have a standard "kit" http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=3945 that is a non diode relay... is the diode really that important.?.?. Thanks guys :hyper:

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