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ok. Gong to start a thread on my methanol injection setup. Here's some videos to get started.

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WPOlcSvxe8

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http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl6eZpObuS8

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http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8LbINgf8XI

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http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sw-xqxjwcY

So as per video - heres a couple wiring questions

1) Would tapping into the 20A lighter fuse be a good place for my switched ignition source

2) I have 2 grounds for this setup. 1 for pump and 1 for controller. Whats the bet way to ground these -> just same as my tranny cooler and ground it to the frame somewhere ?

3) I want to get an LED low-fluid light to run off my existing low fluid sensor in the windshield reservoir. Assume I can just buy a 12v LED light and run to cab - but then how to share the switch ? Just splice it ?

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john thank you for the videos..they are cool.were did you get your kit at?:thumbup2:

hey man - no problem - will add a few more along the way - hope to get done this weekend. I bought this one 2nd hand of CF. Is a 2nd Stage snow performance kit. Seemed that everyone liked snow and devilsown for quality ..... and AEM/coolingmist for price. Maybe devilsown seemed to get the overall win. will let you know how it feels - supposedly if tuned ok on a 30-50% methanol mix can get an extra 40-70 HP and lower egt's. :wow:

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wow thats awesome i would like to know how well that performs as well. power/mpg and the videos are awesome!!!

we need one of those "D"!!!!!:thumbup2:

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As for what I did in my truck was simple... There is only 3 wires running in the cab for power... I've got a 14 AWG wire straight from the batteries with a 20 Amp fuse. Then I tapped only 1 fuse for a trigger and put a relay on it switching the battery lead to follow the key so there is no internal loading of the stock wiring. Then I pulled a ground from the battery as well but all 3 wires are ran to a terminal board behind the knee bolster so I've never got to mess with fuse or otherwise again...

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As for what I did in my truck was simple... There is only 3 wires running in the cab for power... I've got a 14 AWG wire straight from the batteries with a 20 Amp fuse. Then I tapped only 1 fuse for a trigger and put a relay on it switching the battery lead to follow the key so there is no internal loading of the stock wiring. Then I pulled a ground from the battery as well but all 3 wires are ran to a terminal board behind the knee bolster so I've never got to mess with fuse or otherwise again...

thanks mate For me - is there a simpleton way to do it ? Kinda like what I said ? Can I just use the cigarettelighter 20A fuse and piggyback off of that for a power source when switched ? Or one of the others ? Would like to understand the auto electronics better one day --- but that ain;t gonna happen today. :lmao2: Especially reducing the load via relays/boards ....... I understand teh concept - but not the practice :)

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Well got the 7gallon tank built with 1/4 OD quick connect fittings, pump mounted in bed and high pressure/temp 1/" injection line fed and mounted into engine bay. Got toggle switch mounted and power wire run under cab. So still gotta*) Wire up the controller to power in cab and bolt id down behind the emergency brake pedal.*) Drill and TAP my air-intake manifold elbow*) Buy some decent methanol mix. in AZ not as easy to come by at -20c.TEST :hyper:Then buy and install a check valve and maybe a low fluid level sensor+LED.

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Here's a coupe more pics - very little progress -waiting on 'check valve' and been busy.Will try and get done this weekend :tease:post-10132-138698173045_thumb.jpgAdding controller to trime by emergency brake (behind) drivers sidepost-10132-138698173064_thumb.jpgTrim back on (not wired up) hence mess post-10132-138698173053_thumb.jpgSwitch on right for turning WMI on/off. (Silver switch is for tranny cooler).post-10132-138698173059_thumb.jpgHome made 7 Gallon Tank. 1/4" valve punched through with o-ring and epoxy to hold.

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almost there guysAll hooked up and tested (manually).Now just need to get my boost port hooked up (don't have a 1/2" drive) and TAP the intake manifold.All wired and reservoir all set and clamped down.Some more pics.1st run should be tomorrow.post-10132-138698173104_thumb.jpgShows tank strapped downpost-10132-13869817311_thumb.jpgShows pump and 1/4" tubing and power wire running to front of truck

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You stole my water jug out of the back of my truck... :tongue:

yeah a lot cheaper than the $100 kit snow sells I'll ship ya a new1 :thumbup2:

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ok - ALL done :thumbup2:

Looks like around 100 degree reduction (@850 EGT) in EGT with H20.

Couldn't do much testing as I busted the clamp on the intakehorn - so was worried about building too much boost once I noticed it started to slip a little on my return trip.

So will get some methanol - and post some figures soon.

Side question - where do I get the metal band clamp on the bottom of the intakehorn ???

Anyone got a part# ??

thanks

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FOUND IT

http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=BK_7051526_0282399597

and lookie lookie in AZ

http://www.speedwayracefuels.com/products/methanol.html

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Someone picked up 7 gallons of methanol today :evilgrin:. $2.20 gallon. Will have her tested tomorrow morning .......... still need a bit of tuning on my injectors I think ....... but going to wait until I get my +75's in which just arrived today. :thumb1: Then if it all works out .......... get me one of these for the RV as well as my silver bullet. http://www.a1-water-distiller.com/ :tongue:

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Someone picked up 7 gallons of methanol today :evilgrin:. $2.20 gallon. Will have her tested tomorrow morning .......... still need a bit of tuning on my injectors I think ....... but going to wait until I get my +75's in which just arrived today. :thumb1: Then if it all works out .......... get me one of these for the RV as well as my silver bullet. http://www.a1-water-distiller.com/ :tongue:

sweet...did you get any stickers?i am thinkin' about a super b special and some of his 200's!:thumbup2:

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Update.Had some trouble adjusting the flow ...... tended to overfuel at certain points. Think I am getting closer to a good spray now. Had to play with the settings a bit."Guessing" around 150 drop in EGT and +40-+50 HP when in full spray. So all n all its not been too bad ......... I need to setup a better test (like a big hill) to determine EGT's a bit more accurately.:thumb1:

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i know where there is some at...head north out of phoenix on interstate 17...as you get closer to flagstaff the mountains start to ramp up in elevation.

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i know where there is some at...head north out of phoenix on interstate 17...as you get closer to flagstaff the mountains start to ramp up in elevation.

yeah thats exactly where I am thinking ...... came in that way :) you got your injectors and HX35 yet ? hahhaa :moon:

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thinkin' about a different setup...dunno..i talk myself outta more stuff.....thinkin about some of jamie's 200's or 240's...super b special....maybe a sps66...dunno yet...i have a turbo from my 03 6 speed that is just sittin' in a box...thought about that..but no...i still have the new rv275's in plastic...in there new box put up...

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yeah thats exactly where I am thinking ...... came in that way :)

you got your injectors and HX35 yet ? hahhaa :moon:

last time i was out there i chose to take the 96 12valve automatic...4x4 r.c.l.b. with 3.54's and i still remember this i had the cruise set at 68 mph....the whole way and it never downshifted once!!!!!:hyper:

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:stuned: wow - that think would move ......... guess youd need headstuds as well at a minimum

yes sir...how are ya likin AZ? FUEL PRICES OUTTA THIS WORLD?

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yes sir...how are ya likin AZ? FUEL PRICES OUTTA THIS WORLD?

yeah whats with that ??? Next door to texas and more expensive than central MO ??

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