This article was created to shed some light on the facts for tuners on a VP44 Cummins.   

Here is a quck list of features for various tuners so you can compare.   The $K / Redline /TST PMCE are not included as they are a special breed of tuner that people run for a specific reason.  



Not all tuners are equal and there are a lot of opinions as to "what is best"  Use this to figure out what is best for you and your truck. 


Quadzilla ADR tuning video

ADR tuning reference guide 

 

Here is the Edge jwa cts2 User manual
https://edgeproducts.com/installation_guides/AttitudeCTS2_D10012600_REV00.pdf

Here is the Edge Comp User Manual
https://edgeproducts.com/installation_guides/30300.pdf

Here is the Edge ez User manual
https://edgeproducts.com/installation_guides/30200.pdf
 

Smarty / MM3 info can be found at
https://smartyresource.com/
 

TST Comp manual
https://www.tstproducts.com/pdffiles/remote45c.pdf

 

 

tunerCompare.xlsx

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Edited May 25, 20186 yr by Me78569

I know I have a bias to quadzilla, I wrote the thing it is allowed lol, but I really did try VERY hard to open up as much data and info as possible to explain the black box of the vp44 system.    

 

 

I am not Cat Calling TST, the revised version of the chart has the correctly labeled pm3 and info that is correct for it WITH a notation about the Comp and redline and Quad 4k.  It is as factual as I can make it.    If you have something to add or edit please let me know.   I am not interested in a Quadzilla or nothing type topic, I think I have proven that.     

 

 

 

 

fYI here is a Quadzilla dyno vs stock because you asked ( I dont know why)

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/229737-please-post-dyno-results.html#post2460183  Not from me or anyone related to quadzilla.  

 

150 hp over stock 43x ft/lb   over stock

 

another Quad

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/229737-please-post-dyno-results-4.html#post4273350

332 HP 952 TQ      I dont believe the torque numbers for a second.   

 

Another quad

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/229737-please-post-dyno-results-5.html#post4392607

300 hp 715 tq.  Again huge difference in 3 stock injector trucks with the same tune.

 

 

 

Edge stock injector

 

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/229737-please-post-dyno-results-2.html#post2536280

 

360 hp and 74x ft /lb

 

another edge stock injector

 

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/229737-please-post-dyno-results-2.html#post2536280

 

374 and 895 ft /lb   

 

 

 

 

All stock injector trucks, and VASTLY different number between them.  All dyno numbers prove is that they are unreliable when you are measuring using 2 different dynos.    we are talking about %20 difference in numbers between the same setup trucks.  

 

as another example TST's hp chart shows a stock truck at 170hp to the wheels, the first dyno sheet shows 210 hp to the wheels, my truck did 195 hp to the wheels for emissions.   We are talking about a 30-40 hp difference in starting dyno numbers that is being used as a baseline. for all these HP over stock numbers.