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Found out today I have a 2 piece head bolt. So truck is parked for now and i found a new long block for 3k. Ideally if im going to swap the motor I want to build it prior to. All supporting mods aside whats the best set up for a vp44 truck? I know we tap out around 700 hp which suits me fine. I think I would like to do a cam and cnc ported head. I dont plan on exceeding 3500 rpm so do I need valve springs? Fire ring or o ring ( compunds are probably in the future) what else am I missing should I step up to 14mm head studs?

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Myself I'm at about 500 HP with my mods.

  • ARP 425 studs

  • Stock HX35W (54/60/12)

  • 150 HP injectors (popped at 320 bar)

  • Quadzilla adrenaline with custom tune

  • BHAF

  • 4" muffled exhaust Diamond Eye

Just remember more power is going to shorten the life of the engine. Even with my setup I run only level 3 of the Quad. Yeah I've gone to play wide open but could get hot. Several trick to push the power out. One of my previous tune could fry all 4 tires on dry pavement. Make sure your final ratio is near 3.73 after tires. Then don't run wide tires you'll lose traction easier. This is why I run 245/75 R16 tires. Lower rotational mass, easier to accelerate, better traction over wide face tires. Dually is even worse.

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It sounds like 500 is going to be a good goal for me as well. I hate to take this long block apart so I think I'll run it how it is. But im still pending a quote from the machine shop to install o rings port the head and lap the valves. But I ordered a towing cam from Hamilton a new exaust manifold and a set of headstuds. I will gasket match the exhaust manifold (and wrap it) and the exhaust head. I think I'll still run the stock valve train (no plan in exceedingthe stock 3200 rpm) anything else I should upgrade or change while the engine is out?

  • Owner

If you stay to the 3200 redline then you should be safe. 12V engines only had 45 pound valve spring IIRC. 24V valve train is pretty solid 60 pound springs but I would have the guides and seals done for sure. If you boost is still lower than your spring pound rating should be fine. The closer you get boost to the pound rating on the springs more chance of valve floating then remember your drive pressure vs turbo housing size. (Flow...)

  • Author

I do think I will convert 1 of my boost gages to monitor drive pressure. By doing the guides and seals are you referring to upgrading the valves and seals or just redoing them back to oem spec?

  • Owner

Basically when you get 300k miles on your Cummins engine typically they develope a condition called head curl. The ends of the head start to lift. This is why the head studs. Now about 300k miles you notice oil usage and that is caused by valve guides allow the valves to wobble which in turn wears the valve stem seals.

Drive pressure gauge really doesn't need to be in the cab per se if you can design and test the first time drive pressures shouldn't really change unless other things change. (injectors, tuning, etc).

I stayed down around 500 HP for a few reasons. One not willing to give up my exhaust brake yet. Smaller turbos spool faster than larger turbos. Remember the lighter the rotational mass (turbo wheel, tires, driveline, flywheel, Etc.) ther faster it will accelerate. To this day I hunt for oversize tire truck with a lift kit and whip them in a street race because of all the rotational mass. Just food for thought.

  • Author

That head curl makes sense I took my broken head stud into work and had one of the material engineers look at it and what he had to say was that it was brittle fracture. His suspicion was that it was over hardened he also pointed out that it broke on the first thread on the bottom so that might have been a stress riser for it. That part of the head is the hottest section right next to the turbo is. I have my turbo and exaust header heavily insulated with rockwoll. My water pump went out last week and the truck got to 240° ( immediately turned the heater on and slowed down and it quickly droped back to 195. I think this event is when it broke. As much as I hate to say it I dont think im going to buy exotic head studs again I think the temper was bad coupled with some extraneous circumstances on my end but I still dont think it should have failed. Especially since the highest boost my truck has seen for the last 3 weeks was 12psi.

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Sad to think a 68$ water pump is what killed this mighty cummins.

  • Owner
16 hours ago, yohon said:

Sad to think a 68$ water pump is what killed this mighty cummins.

Do yourself a favor DO NOT buy a Cummins water pump. Sadly, there are too many people who think Cummins is the best supplier, but actually, they are not updating part design for improvement, but finding a cheaper way to produce the product and charge you Cummins prices. I've dealt with NAPA parts for over 20 years with a low failure rate vs Cummins water pumps and thermostats.

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The Napa in town just shut down a year ago. The orileys is pretty solid guys but their parts are just terrible this was actually the in house brand and it only lasted 2 years under warranty but that dont help when your on the side of the road lol.

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