So today myself and my father was at a diesel station filling up the truck in my sig when a 2013 dodge CC Dually cummins 6spd was coming down the road gearing down the truck obviously was stright piped. Truck sounded great and looked amazing till that horrible VGT-turbo jet sound blared out the exhaust pipe. My dad thought the brake's were squealing on it till i told him about the VGT's ( Man is out of his element with diesel's lol Gasser through and through). In his word's "it sounded like a powderchoke or Duralax not like a Cummin's and i won't buy one if they gotta sound like that mess." So i have it in my plan's to buy a used 2013 next year but if that is what they will sound like it will detour me back to getting a second 2nd gen Cummin's. So is the VGT a good idea for towing/Hauling if you own one is it that bad in the cab and is it possible to replace the turbo with a non-VGT turbo thanks all look forward to your replies

I wouldn't trade the vgt exhaust brake for anything. Does it sound like a Jake? Nope. Does it work like a champ? Absolutely. Without the exhaust brake on, you can't tell the difference from the sound anyway. Tapatalking in traffic

Thank's for the info mr.mindless i found a 2012 dodge cummin's for a great price with good mile's and was hesitant to go look at it till i knew if the turbo was worth the noise compared to the old school turbo's. Might have to go drive it to get all the info and decide then thank's again

Check out youtube for the 2nd gen and even 1st gen guys that have put those vgt turbos on their trucks.

It sounds no different than any other except when you're using the exhaust brake, and that's your choice. Tapatalking in traffic

So i have it in my plan's to buy a used 2013 next year but if that is what they will sound like it will detour me back to getting a second 2nd gen Cummin's.

AND if you get rid of your truck in the process, let me know, as I would buy yours!

I don't beleive there are any delete kit's for the '13s yet, and the VGT noise shouldn't be audible thru all the crap in the exhaust. Are you sure it wasn't a deleted '10-'12?The VGT with no, or minimal, mufflering is noise with the exhaust brake on. There isn't a way around that.

I say go for it!!I have an '06 with a Jacobs on it. I have a very straight exhaust now and yes you do hear the hissing with the exhaust brake. It only takes a couple of times of using it and having it slow you down to getting to liking it and not worrying about the hissing.......

When I had just a single muffler the pitch from my Jacobs EB was so loud I almost stopped using the brake until I added a resonator. Obnoxious doesn't begin to describe it.

I've been really considering picking one up for my 98 For a mild upgrade. From what Ive seen advertised I could get a good used vgt and 6.7 Manifold for 300 to 400 dollars and a stand a lone controller for roughly the same. So for around 800 bucks I could have an upgraded turbo and an exhaust brake. Just wish I could see it in a 2nd gen truck to see how it performs and if it would be worth the money.