NEW Guy help please

[zack_76401]

Hello,I am new to the site not new to Cummins or diesel but just purchased a 24V truck and need some guidance.The truck is a 2001 HO sixspeed. I just purchased (among MANY other things) a Qaudzilla Adrenaline with the V2 screen. I also am purchasing a FASS setup. I am doing all this from a computer as Im overseas and my trucks are in Texas.I need to know what kind of fitting do I need to run the FASS and the Qaudzilla sender into the VP44. Is it a T-fitting? Anyone with pics or helpful info would be greatly appreciated. I searched on CF but couldn't find a good pic of anyones setup.Thank you in advance,Zack

[Mopar1973Man]

Welcome to the family... The best idea I've got is to give vulcan performance a look at. He's got all the fuel plumbing pieces that you might want. http://www.vulcanperformance.com/

[cumminapart]

Are you talking about how to connect the fuel pressure sending unit? I believe the adrenaline would come with most likely a replacement for the banjo bolt with a tapped one for the sending unit. This is what came with my edge This setup isn't ideal because attaching directly to the vp44 this way produces fluctuating readings because of the hammer pressure from the injection pump I almost want to assume that the fass system will come with a fitting option to connect in a sending unit. As mentioned Vulcan definitely will have the right stuff but check to see if the fass system (which will run it's own fuel line and bypass the stock filter straight to the vp44) comes with a tapped fitting --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.773731,-84.595576

[zack_76401]

Im trying to visualize this in my head, but, Im thinking i will need a Tee of some sort on the VP44 itself so i have more than one "port" to read fuel pressure as well as introduce the fuel from the FASS. Am i wrong in my assumptions?

[cumminapart]

I think you can get a T connection from Vulcan which will go inline of the fuel line between the lift pump and vp44. It will have a threaded hole for your sending unit What I have with my big line kit from Vulcan is a tapped 90 degree JIC fitting I'll try take a pic in a little bit --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.773620,-84.595296

[Mopar1973Man]

There is my setup... Double push-loc tee...

Edited February 11, 2022 by Mopar1973Man

[cumminapart]

This isn't ideal because I still get hammer pressure

People run a grease gun hose and then the sender or a snubber valve to dampen the pressure fluctuations

The fear is that the sending unit will fail but I've been this way over a year and I do know it still tells me low fuel pressure

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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.773705,-84.595921

[zack_76401]

Thank you both....I now see how to do this, I just happen to have a spare grease gun hose I will "utilize".Thanks again!

[Mopar1973Man]

Thank you both....

I now see how to do this, I just happen to have a spare grease gun hose I will "utilize".

Thanks again!

Grease gun hose not required. There was a old myth of vibration killing the senders and it not true... Its the water hammer that kills the senders.

He's right that is wrong...

But as even in my setup I'm solid brass and no hose but using a needle valve.

http://forum.mopar1973man.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3405

[zack_76401]

Im going to set it up like your set up Mike. Cut a tee in the fuel line, needle valve off the tee, spare grease gun hose to my qaudzilla sender.Looks like yours is set up for manual gauge and a sender, no?Thanks for all the help guys.

[dripley]

I am set up like Mike's is except I have no sender, I only have a mechanical gauge. I also have the tapped 90 like cumminapart has but i just capped it and use it to cnnect a test gauge to and to bleed the low pressure system when needed.

[Mopar1973Man]

Im going to set it up like your set up Mike. Cut a tee in the fuel line, needle valve off the tee, spare grease gun hose to my qaudzilla sender. Looks like yours is set up for manual gauge and a sender, no? Thanks for all the help guys.

The only thing that sucks is there is no ground to that fitting so electric gauges don't work this is why I don't suggest the grease gun hose either because there is no ground reference. So if you use the fitting like cumminapart did but put it back at the stock filter housing or at the lift pump (AirDog 100/150) then your good. Just don't want the fuel pressure sender anywhere near the VP44 or damage to the sender will result sooner...

[cumminapart]

I know I know ... I thought the big line kit was coming with a snubber valve and was too lazy to mess with getting it on beneath the stock filter and now that spot is seeping as u can see.. I should address this sooner than later --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.665360,-84.291778

[zack_76401]

The only thing that sucks is there is no ground to that fitting so electric gauges don't work this is why I don't suggest the grease gun hose either because there is no ground reference. So if you use the fitting like cumminapart did but put it back at the stock filter housing or at the lift pump (AirDog 100/150) then your good. Just don't want the fuel pressure sender anywhere near the VP44 or damage to the sender will result sooner...

I can run a ground to my fitting and ground it out. This won't solve the grounding issue?

[dripley]

as long as your sender is grounded you should be good. just be sure your sender is after your last fuel filter. I still use the oe canister in addition to the AD filters. My tap for the gauge is between the oe canister and the VP.

[zack_76401]

My sender is the fP1000 sender from quadzilla. I can run a ground to one of my fittings....can do easy, and can't hurt nothing right?

[dripley]

as long as it is grounded you should be fine.

[Mopar1973Man]

My sender is the fP1000 sender from quadzilla. I can run a ground to one of my fittings....can do easy, and can't hurt nothing right?

If its a brass or steel fitting you can solder wire right to the fitting but make sure to zip tie the wire too the wire will eventually break free because the solder makes it brittle.

[cumminapart]

Remember A failed electronic Sender will hold the reading it failed atFailed mechanical gauge will read ZeroSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Mopar1973Man]

Remember A failed electronic Sender will hold the reading it failed at Failed mechanical gauge will read Zero Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Really...???