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I seen an aftermarket "commercial grade" or industrial grade AAOS... It's 200.00 us plus tax shipping duty exchange rate etc.

 

found some on ebay that seem to be garbage then found some other ones that are apparently good quality for a couple hundred bucks less...??

 

ISUMO is the brand... Anyone have any insite on this? Can i save some money or should i buy that comercial grade apps (tps)? I know there has to be a quality difference because i run D10 and D11 Cat Dozers in the Rocky Mountains of Canada here and they take one heck of a beating and we never have electrical issues... Those Cats never stop running 24-7 unless they are in for servicing... Up one side of the mountain and down the other and in 6 years saw one elect problem out of all our Dozers...

 

 

Also my truck cut right out the other day so i taped the pedal fast a couole times snd she came back to life. Set that 0121 code i think it is check engine light was on for that day then next day it was gone and is still gone. Truck seems to be running fine. Is this the beginning of my aaps going and can an aaps failure leave me stranded on the hwy??

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  • Dieselfuture
    Dieselfuture

    I got mine from timbo like most people here, but also heard he has a bad one every so often but with no hassle exchanges it. I think it could leave you stranded if it was bad enough. In my mind it's l

  • Mopar1973Man
    Mopar1973Man

    Also a Timbo's user too... No issues also cheaper at $160.   As for rheostat its actually a carbon track and the wiper blade eventually will wear through the carbon offsetting the voltage.

  • dodgedieselnewbie
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    It was suggested to me that I go with a  WellsVE APPS  if I were to need one. That it is a non contact, magnetic type with nothing to wear out. What are thoughts/experience on this?

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No argument out of me... It not the point of Wells design...

 

It the foolish people the world that will attempt to adjust it to the tag value of the old OE APPS. The whole fact we are back to adjusting voltage is going to get a lot of people in trouble. So as the Wells APPS get more popular I'm sure there is going to plenty of people starting to complain about lack of exhaust brake function or higher curb idle RPM's (but not high idle). The fact of the matter is the value on the old APPS is meaningless but I'm sure lots of people will attempt to use it thinking that is the calibration of the ECM which isn't right.

 

I like the magnet design (from what I've seen now). I just not fond of the voltage adjustment part.

 

I remember back when CF create the voltage adjustment thread.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-maintenance/13542-apps-adjustment.html

 

This thread created all kinds of issues with curb idle, high idle functions, exhaust brake functions, etc. Then in the thread about measuring the voltage at the PCM. Then made the issue worse. What I see is people going in all different directions with this Wells APPS voltage adjustment again. :rolleyes:

 

That why I came out with...

 

So eventually I'll have to buy a Wells to just play with it and get a article wrote before people get in trouble. Only problem I can't get one locally I've got to drive to Ontario, OR or Lewiston, ID to get one.

 

4 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

No argument out of me... It not the point of Wells design...

 

It the foolish people the world that will attempt to adjust it to the tag value of the old OE APPS. The whole fact we are back to adjusting voltage is going to get a lot of people in trouble. So as the Wells APPS get more popular I'm sure there is going to plenty of people starting to complain about lack of exhaust brake function or higher curb idle RPM's (but not high idle). The fact of the matter is the value on the old APPS is meaningless but I'm sure lots of people will attempt to use it thinking that is the calibration of the ECM which isn't right.

 

I like the magnet design (from what I've seen now). I just not fond of the voltage adjustment part.

 

I remember back when CF create the voltage adjustment thread.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-maintenance/13542-apps-adjustment.html

 

This thread created all kinds of issues with curb idle, high idle functions, exhaust brake functions, etc. Then in the thread about measuring the voltage at the PCM. Then made the issue worse. What I see is people going in all different directions with this Wells APPS voltage adjustment again. :rolleyes:

 

That why I came out with...

 

So eventually I'll have to buy a Wells to just play with it and get a article wrote before people get in trouble. Only problem I can't get one locally I've got to drive to Ontario, OR or Lewiston, ID to get one.

 

Whens your birthday? Maybe the good fairy will send you one.

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34 minutes ago, dripley said:

Whens your birthday? Maybe the good fairy will send you one.

 

LOL... Right... :rolleyes:

1 hour ago, leathermaneod said:

you could order one...

 

$230 bucks a bit steep. Wow! $70 more than a Timbo's. This will wait for quit a while... My pockets aren't deep. :broke:

i just looked it up and it says you can get 20% off if that but did not check on shipping. About the same with the discount. appears that shipping is free also.

 

Timbo $165 per his site.

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