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Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

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Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising :stirthepot: 

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Changed the title for SEO reasons

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Just now, Me78569 said:

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Pleeeeeaaaaassssseeeee make it smooth ;)

Doubled the counts in  PSI averaging  

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:stirthepot: 

churn that pot until I get butter 

Alright,

 

I have upped the boost reads to 32 times to average, which has made it a lot less jumpy.  Fueling reflects that.  Boost still builds very smooth.  

 

I still have to load the custom tune 2 times in order for it to take effect, I have no idea why.

I never knew how much I missed have cruise control.  It works great now that I am below oem fueling commands.  Cruise holds good and doesnt over react if you lose some mph due to a hill or headwind, rather it increases TPS just enough and the truck slowly increases speed.

 

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21 hours ago, Me78569 said:

churn that pot until I get butter 

Churned it!

 

Now I've got smooth as butter tuning. I am sending you a PM right after this as well.

I've got the power starting out at 68%. This does make me let off the clutch easier, but it's still not easy to kill the motor.

From there it ramps up, and by 15psi it is at 100%

0      68

1      68

2      69

3      70

4      72

5      74

6      76

7      78

8      80

9      83

10    86

11    89

12    92

13    95

14    97

15   100

16 and up is 100%

 

Can-bus min = 50%

Can-bus max = 100%

 

Can-bus isn't a big deal for me as I rarely change it off of level 2.

Driving this morning, I could hit the throttle from idle straight up to 35%, had zero smoke, and the power ramped up to 35psi of boost or so. Plenty of power to keep up with traffic and then some. I could continue to lay into it and have 50psi or so. Lots of power available for level 2

You need smaller injectors hahahaha.  

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28 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

You need smaller injectors hahahaha.  

Noooooooooo!!

Maybe I'll throw in some 7x.014 sacs just to prove they can be clean :stirthepot: 

I bet I'll even get good mileage with them! :tease:

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hahahahaha

 

You are effectively using the programmer to reduce fueling only hahahahaha

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1 minute ago, Me78569 said:

hahahahaha

 

You are effectively using the programmer to reduce fueling only hahahahaha

I wonder if I could break 500hp without a wiretap.... That would be cool

2 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

hahahahaha

 

You are effectively using the programmer to reduce fueling only hahahahaha

 

 

VERY VERY common in the HPCR world. It allows someone to use big enough injectors at high rpms to keep the injector open time down and the timing not too extreme and still drive it easily at partial throttle.

 

Turning down the fuel on custom tuning is crucial to good drivability.

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4 minutes ago, AH64ID said:

 

 

VERY VERY common in the HPCR world. It allows someone to use big enough injectors at high rpms to keep the injector open time down and the timing not too extreme and still drive it easily at partial throttle.

 

Turning down the fuel on custom tuning is crucial to good drivability.

This is exactly what the VP guys have been missing to make the trucks street friendly with big injectors. I'm glad I've got some big ones to test with and prove we can make them clean!

Exactly.   It's a 180* difference from any of the other vp tuning out there.  

 

When I seen the code I was like

 

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Drove the truck back and forth the last two days after filling up. 220 miles or so.... about 65% highway and 35% city on a very hilly route. Managed to get 20.93mpg. That's the best I've gotten with these injectors, and it's only 2mpg less than my best with the 125s (23mpg). The new tuning is working nicely :stirthepot: 

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Both pulls I was going up a slight hill (same hill) I let off and let the boost hit zero, then went straight to 100% Starting mph was 55 in 6th gear.

 

 

 

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Wow that's impressive......  

 

 

I think I have the custom tuning switching bug kinda fixed.....  

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On ‎8‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 2:25 PM, Me78569 said:

Wow that's impressive......  

 

 

I think I have the custom tuning switching bug kinda fixed.....  

@Me78569.... wanna take those two videos and post em on the CF thread for me?

Yea I can do that.

found that not only is my Cruise Contorl now working good, but my lie-o-meter is about as accurate as it was on stock fueling ( within 1 or 2 mpg)

 

 

It's the little things

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