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I feel that it is time to start building a list of tunes that we all use.

 

Please learn what each tuning variable does.  There V2 tuning article covers everything in depth along with a video explaining each item.

This tool will allow you to edit Quadzilla tunes from your PC.

 

Update 1/15/17 V2.2 tunes should include timing maxes for various RPM's and fuel load timing

 

Copy this into your post and fill out the info

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Power Levels:

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing:

Low PSI Timing Reduct:

Timing Reduct Scaling:

Light Throttle Timing Adv:

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit:

 

Timing vs rpm

1500:

2000:

2500:

3000:

Timing Max:
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch:

TPS Pump max:

TPS Pump Min

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI

 

Boost Scaling:

 

RPM Limit:

 

Power Reduction:

 

0 PSI %:

1 PSI %:

2 PSI %:

3 PSI %:

4 PSI %:

5 PSI %:

6 PSI %:

7 PSI %:

8 PSI %:

9 PSI %:

10 PSI %:

11 PSI %:

12 PSI %:

13 PSI %:

14 PSI %:

15 PSI %:

16 PSI %:

18 PSI %:

20 PSI %:

22 PSI %:

24 PSI %:

26 PSI %:

28 PSI %:

30 PSI %:

 

My Mods

7 x.009 DFI injectors, he351ve arduino controller

 

 

My Tunes

DD:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Fuel Stretch: 1700

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 8

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3500

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:84

1 PSI %:84

2 PSI %:85

3 PSI %:86

4 PSI %:87

5 PSI %:88

6 PSI %:89

7 PSI %:90

8 PSI %:92

9 PSI %:94

10 PSI %:96

11 PSI %:98

12 PSI %:100

13 PSI %:104

14 PSI %:108

15 PSI %:112

16 PSI %:116

17 PSI %:120

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:128

22 PSI %:132

24 PSI %:136

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Tow:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 1

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 19

2500: 24

3000: 26

Timing Max: 27

 

Fuel Stretch: 1400

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:15

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:92

1 PSI %:92

2 PSI %:94

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:96

5 PSI %95

6 PSI %:95

7 PSI %:96

8 PSI %:97

9 PSI %:98

10 PSI %:99

11 PSI %:100

12 PSI %:102

13 PSI %:104

14 PSI %:108

15 PSI %:112

16 PSI %:116

17 PSI %:120

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:128

22 PSI %:132

24 PSI %:136

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Race:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load: 1.5

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling:100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

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Fuel Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:10

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3700

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:94

1 PSI %:94

2 PSI %:95

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:97

5 PSI %:98

6 PSI %:99

7 PSI %:100

8 PSI %:102

9 PSI %:104

10 PSI %:106

11 PSI %:108

12 PSI %:110

13 PSI %:112

14 PSI %:114

15 PSI %:116

16 PSI %:118

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:126

20 PSI %:130

22 PSI %:134

24 PSI %:138

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

 

@Carbur8tr For your towing tune.

 

lvl's I like 6 because I don't like having to push the plus button 1000 times.  but you can set this to whatever you like

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:15

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 0

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:94

1 PSI %:94

2 PSI %:95

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:97

5 PSI %:98

6 PSI %:99

7 PSI %:100

8 PSI %:102

9 PSI %:104

10 PSI %:106

11 PSI %:108

12 PSI %:110

13 PSI %:112

14 PSI %:114

15 PSI %:116

16 PSI %:118

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:126

20 PSI %:130

22 PSI %:134

24 PSI %:138

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

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i know its been talked about, but i cant remember where abouts, if at all ITT it was. what is the cause of surging at low rpm in OD? if im 50-55MPH in OD the trucks surges like crazy. above 55 its fine. under 50 the tq converter unlocks and is fine again

@Me78569 so on my way into work this morning, I tried as best as I could to pay attention to the monitor. Cruising at 70 mph I was anywhere between 650-800 egt’s. 18%-26% engine load. 19.30*-20.17* of timing. I thought according to the tuning guide for 70 mph that 19* of timing was the best for mpg 

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Should be based on the 2,000 RPM should be 19 to 20 degrees typically. This can be impacted but tires and wheel sizes affecting the final ratio to the ground.

9 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Double check the RPM range it does surging problem exist at. I'm curious.

it would be around 1400-1500 rpm. as soon as the tq conv locks up it will start to surge if im at low rpm 50-55 mph. im pretty sure ive seen in this thread that thats contributed to a certain setting on the quad. and it never did it before the quad either

  • Owner

Dang, mine is lower around the 1,200 RPM mark I was wondering if it was a Quadzilla issue or something else. Right near 1,200 it start bucking on light throttle right around the 25 to 30 MPH speed range. I would say change up the timing more retard at the 1,500 and see if it helps or not. I'm going to bet not.

14 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Dang, mine is lower around the 1,200 RPM mark I was wondering if it was a Quadzilla issue or something else. Right near 1,200 it start bucking on light throttle right around the 25 to 30 MPH speed range. I would say change up the timing more retard at the 1,500 and see if it helps or not. I'm going to bet not.

ill have to double check rpm. it was just a guess, but it only does it in OD when the converter locks. no other gears and not when its unlocked. i had this same setup without the quad and it never did it, as soon as i got the quad it started

  • Author

data log the issue please

will do. i might take it out today. if not it may be a few days. supposed to rain all week

  • Author

I am guessing you will have to adjust your timing some,  guessing it is too timing aggressive when lockup happens and your big turbo isn't lit.

  • Owner

Just thinking of it... Might have to bring the cruise timing load value down. Might be hanging on the cruise timing too long or too high of engine load percentage. Then take your load based timing and increase it. This will give more retard to the timing when you fall out of the cruise timing state getting the turbo spooled back up. 

7 hours ago, Me78569 said:

I am guessing you will have to adjust your timing some,  guessing it is too timing aggressive when lockup happens and your big turbo isn't lit.

any reason it wouldnt happen when it locks up in 3rd? still low rpm

  • Author

input torque requirements increase as gear # increases.  

On 4/5/2019 at 11:24 AM, Mopar1973Man said:

 

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Light throttle timing should be based on your flat highway running at a MAX of 65 MPH. Take note of the engine load you want to add maybe 1-2% more than your flat highway engine load. Anything below 65 MPH should hit the cruise timing. Don't attempt to set for speeds higher this will lower MPG number. Anything above 65 MPH should be on the performance timing, not cruise timing. My typical engine load at 65 MPH is 20% I've set my last tune for 22%. 55 cruise load is 15% to 17% which is awesome and can easily keep the cruise state for speeds less than 65 MPH. Idle engine load is about 11% to 12% only 5% more than idle to keep rolling at 55 MPH I've noted instant MPG at about 24 to 26 MPG.

 

Not trying to but in but I have read this like 6 times and I want to make sure I understand. Light throttle timing advance should be 1 or 2 degrees higher than my engine load at 65 mph? And I need to set my light throttle load limit needs to be a little higher than my engine load while maintaining 65?  I have a slight knock as well which goes away with the quad turned off. Too much timing or to little? Yea I know I need new injectors that would help. 

  • Owner
4 minutes ago, Unreal Summit said:

Light throttle timing advance should be 1 or 2 degrees higher than my engine load at 65 mph?

 

Should hit about 19 to 20 degrees typically at 2k RPM while in cruise timing.

 

5 minutes ago, Unreal Summit said:

And I need to set my light throttle load limit needs to be a little higher than my engine load while maintaining 65?

 

Flat ground cruise set at 65 MPH set your cruise load limit maybe 1 to 2% higher than your current cruise engine load. 

 

6 minutes ago, Unreal Summit said:

I have a slight knock as well which goes away with the quad turned off. Too much timing or to little?

 

Slight rattle is normal but it should drop out when you pass your load limit. Timing should retard.

Got ya I am at about 19. Something degrees at 70mph I'll look at my engine load at a cruise tmw. Maybe I can get a few more mpg so I can save for new injectors. If I have a rattle even after dropping out of cruise state what should I do?  Timing reduct is at 2*

  • Author

Timing reduct only comes into play at high throttle low boost, that's meant to retard timing at a rapid rate if you put your foot down.  

 

 

Max Load Timing Offset is what defines how much below the timing curve to go.  
As load increases to %100 max load decreases to 0* to match your curve defined timing.  

A little bit of knock isn't bad.  However you want to see timing drop to 14-16* of timing when you try to pass someone without too much throttle at 65 mph then if you mat it you should see timing drop even more if boost is low.

 

I would datalog a light throttle situtation at 65, then an easy passing situtation, then a matted situtation.  You will be able to see where timing drops to and adjust your setting better from there.

You think 2* is enough? I think my tow tune is 5?  Should just buke and smoke if it's to retarded right? I'll Data log and try to watch the engine load tmw as well.

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We are privately owned, with access to a professional Diesel Mechanic, who can provide additional support for Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel vehicles. Many detailed information is FREE and available to read. However, in order to interact directly with our Diesel Mechanic, Michael, by phone, via zoom, or as the web-based option, Subscription Plans are offered that will enable these and other features.  Go to the Subscription Page and Select a desired plan. At any time you wish to cancel the Subscription, click Subscription Page, select the 'Cancel' button, and it will be canceled. For your convenience, all subscriptions are on auto-renewal.