I feel that it is time to start building a list of tunes that we all use.

 

Please learn what each tuning variable does.  There V2 tuning article covers everything in depth along with a video explaining each item.

This tool will allow you to edit Quadzilla tunes from your PC.

 

Update 1/15/17 V2.2 tunes should include timing maxes for various RPM's and fuel load timing

 

Copy this into your post and fill out the info

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Power Levels:

 

Timing

Fuel Load Timing:

Low PSI Timing Reduct:

Timing Reduct Scaling:

Light Throttle Timing Adv:

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit:

 

Timing vs rpm

1500:

2000:

2500:

3000:

Timing Max:
 

Wiretap

Pump Stretch:

TPS Pump max:

TPS Pump Min

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 

 

Boost Scaling:

 

RPM Limit:

 

Power Reduction:

 

0 PSI %:

1 PSI %:

2 PSI %:

3 PSI %:

4 PSI %:

5 PSI %:

6 PSI %:

7 PSI %:

8 PSI %:

9 PSI %:

10 PSI %:

11 PSI %:

12 PSI %:

13 PSI %:

14 PSI %:

15 PSI %:

16 PSI %:

18 PSI %:

20 PSI %:

22 PSI %:

24 PSI %:

26 PSI %:

28 PSI %:

30 PSI %:

 

My Mods

7 x.009 DFI injectors, he351ve arduino controller

 

 

My Tunes

DD:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

Fuel Stretch: 1700

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:0

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 8

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3500

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:84

1 PSI %:84

2 PSI %:85

3 PSI %:86

4 PSI %:87

5 PSI %:88

6 PSI %:89

7 PSI %:90

8 PSI %:92

9 PSI %:94

10 PSI %:96

11 PSI %:98

12 PSI %:100

13 PSI %:104

14 PSI %:108

15 PSI %:112

16 PSI %:116

17 PSI %:120

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:128

22 PSI %:132

24 PSI %:136

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Tow:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 1

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 19

2500: 24

3000: 26

Timing Max: 27

 

Fuel Stretch: 1400

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:15

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:92

1 PSI %:92

2 PSI %:94

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:96

5 PSI %95

6 PSI %:95

7 PSI %:96

8 PSI %:97

9 PSI %:98

10 PSI %:99

11 PSI %:100

12 PSI %:102

13 PSI %:104

14 PSI %:108

15 PSI %:112

16 PSI %:116

17 PSI %:120

18 PSI %:124

20 PSI %:128

22 PSI %:132

24 PSI %:136

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Race:

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load: 1.5

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 3

Timing Reduct Scaling:100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

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Fuel Stretch: 1800

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:10

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 5

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3700

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:94

1 PSI %:94

2 PSI %:95

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:97

5 PSI %:98

6 PSI %:99

7 PSI %:100

8 PSI %:102

9 PSI %:104

10 PSI %:106

11 PSI %:108

12 PSI %:110

13 PSI %:112

14 PSI %:114

15 PSI %:116

16 PSI %:118

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:126

20 PSI %:130

22 PSI %:134

24 PSI %:138

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

 

@Carbur8tr For your towing tune.

 

lvl's I like 6 because I don't like having to push the plus button 1000 times.  but you can set this to whatever you like

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Power Levels: 6

 

Fuel Load Timing: 2

Low PSI Timing Reduct: 2

Timing Reduct Scaling: 100

Light Throttle Timing Adv:2

Light Throttle Timing Load Limit: 30

 

Timing vs rpm

1500: 16

2000: 18

2500: 23

3000: 25

Timing Max: 26

 

TPS Pump max: 100

TPS Pump Min 20

Minimum Pump Tap Fueling Percentage:15

Pump Low Boost Scale PSI: 0

 

Boost Scaling: 40

 

RPM Limit: 3300

 

Power Reduction: 15 

 

0 PSI %:94

1 PSI %:94

2 PSI %:95

3 PSI %:96

4 PSI %:97

5 PSI %:98

6 PSI %:99

7 PSI %:100

8 PSI %:102

9 PSI %:104

10 PSI %:106

11 PSI %:108

12 PSI %:110

13 PSI %:112

14 PSI %:114

15 PSI %:116

16 PSI %:118

17 PSI %:122

18 PSI %:126

20 PSI %:130

22 PSI %:134

24 PSI %:138

26 PSI %:138

28 PSI %:138

30 PSI %:138

 

Edited September 27, 20177 yr by Me78569

I am having no drivability issues what so ever. Just was trying to keep my cruise timing in the 17.5 to 18.5 degree range as stated in the v2 in depth tuning. Just trying to make a good safe tune to run everyday with decent mpg. Once it's tweeked to my liking I'll start on a safe tow tune. 

 

Any idea as to why my boost tops at 27 psi? Can you see that in the data log? Do I need more timing on the top?

Edited September 26, 20177 yr by KMayborn

I would leave it in terms of timing.  the documentation is erroring on the VERY safe side, the timing isn't gonna blow anything up provided that it pulls once you get on the throttle.   If you want you can pull .5* from the 2k setting.  

 

I would run this

 

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fuel load timing:2

Low psi timing reduct: 1.5

Timing reduct scaling :100%

light throttle timing adv: 1

light throttle timing limit: 35%

 

1500:16

2000:17.5

2500:22

3000:26 

max: 28

 

 

As for boost have you done a boost leak test?  you can do things to throw more fuel at it if need be, but I want to make sure we cover the bases.

 

@Maybornk

Looking through your logs I dont see TPS input great than ~%40 so I can't comment much on the psi only being 27 max.   Ensure you are going WOT.  

Edited September 26, 20177 yr by Me78569

I’m still waiting to update my tuner. I’m waiting on a cable to come in the mail. So I’m on the v1. I don’t want to blow my head gasket or mess up anything else. I’m still unsure of the timing and the fuel stretch.  Besides and airdog 150 and cold air intake. I have a stock 2nd gen and stock transmission. Can you show me some tunes that would be good for me? I want some decent/ good MPG. But like to have a little smoke, I don’t mind that. Any help would be great. I am still new to all of this.  Thank you for your help. 

5 minutes ago, Fireman_51 said:

I’m still waiting to update my tuner. I’m waiting on a cable to come in the mail. So I’m on the v1. I don’t want to blow my head gasket or mess up anything else. I’m still unsure of the timing and the fuel stretch.  Besides and airdog 150 and cold air intake. I have a stock 2nd gen and stock transmission. Can you show me some tunes that would be good for me? I want some decent/ good MPG. But like to have a little smoke, I don’t mind that. Any help would be great. I am still new to all of this.  Thank you for your help. 

Try this

 

Timing = 5
Fuel Stretch = 2000
TPS MIN = 0 (both can and pump_
TPS MAX CAN = 100
TPS MAX Pump = 70
Boost Scaling = 25

that should go pretty good.

12 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

I would leave it in terms of timing.  the documentation is erroring on the VERY safe side, the timing isn't gonna blow anything up provided that it pulls once you get on the throttle.   If you want you can pull .5* from the 2k setting.  

 

I would run this

 

 

 

As for boost have you done a boost leak test?  you can do things to throw more fuel at it if need be, but I want to make sure we cover the bases.

 

@Maybornk

Looking through your logs I dont see TPS input great than ~%40 so I can't comment much on the psi only being 27 max.   Ensure you are going WOT.  

 

it must not have data logged. 

 

I will try the new timing you suggested. Since my timing at 2k is  safe I will leave it at 18. 

 

I was just researching a boost leak tester. I will gather all the parts and see what I come back with. I will also make a few WOT runs and make sure I get them data logged. 

Cool,

 

Do a good hard 0- 60 run and a good hard highway speed pull.  

Oh and I do not have my warmup temp set. Any suggestions?  Also what makes you ask? Just curious. Lol

7 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Cool,

 

Do a good hard 0- 60 run and a good hard highway speed pull.  

 

Will do. What should I run it up to on the highway speed pull? Just max boost?

Edited September 26, 20177 yr by KMayborn

14 minutes ago, Maybornk said:

Oh and I do not have my warmup temp set. Any suggestions?  Also what makes you ask? Just curious. Lol

 

Will do. What should I run it up to on the highway speed pull? Just max boost?

The warm up mode is debatable, but a good place to start would be at or around 140.  Really I would suggest that you do not do any dogging on your truck until you've seen the thermostat open.  Once you're up to operating temp you should be good to go.  That's my opinion and it's served me well for the last 250k and trust me I beat on my truck quite frequently.

 

I would run it up through the gears and maybe even into lock up (assuming you have an auto) just to see how it responds as you're accelerating.  Goal is to squeeze the most power out of your tune while being able to keep it clean.  @Me78569 and I have been working on a tool that should make this whole process easier.  Hopefully we can have it up and available here soon for the community to benefit from.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Carbur8tr said:

The warm up mode is debatable, but a good place to start would be at or around 140.  Really I would suggest that you do not do any dogging on your truck until you've seen the thermostat open.  Once you're up to operating temp you should be good to go.  That's my opinion and it's served me well for the last 250k and trust me I beat on my truck quite frequently.

 

I would run it up through the gears and maybe even into lock up (assuming you have an auto) just to see how it responds as you're accelerating.  Goal is to squeeze the most power out of your tune while being able to keep it clean.  @Me78569 and I have been working on a tool that should make this whole process easier.  Hopefully we can have it up and available here soon for the community to benefit from.

 

 

 

I gotcha. I normally fire my truck up and let it run for a few minutes in the am before I leave. Sometimes as long as 20 when I'm loading my truck with what I'll need for the day. 

 

I have a 6spd so I'll row thru the gears and see what we come up with. 

 

Thanks for for all the help @Me78569 hopefully we will get this heavy pig moving pretty good. Lol

 

@Carbur8tr I think this stuff is pretty easy to use it's just knowing what's safe or not is the issue for me. I don't have a lot of tuning experience at all but I'm very mechanically minded. I'm the kind of person who wants to know what kind of changes we are making and why we want to make them. Some people get annoyed with my questions but you guys are awesome. It must get confusing with all the different setups people are running. I get confused just trying to keep up with the threads. Lol

 

keep up the good work guys. Looking forward to become a valuable member of this community. 

Honestly it is pretty hard to hurt a vp44 truck with tuning.  

 

As long as you are dropping timing into the 14-16* range when under 2k at heavy throttle, you are ok.  

 

When in warmup mode the Quadzilla is using OEM timing, so I wanted to make sure the logs I was looking as was Quadzilla not OEM. Anything under 120*f ect will use OEM timing as well.  

 

OEM timing will be very high when cold as well.

4 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Honestly it is pretty hard to hurt a vp44 truck with tuning.  

 

As long as you are dropping timing into the 14-16* range when under 2k at heavy throttle, you are ok.  

 

When in warmup mode the Quadzilla is using OEM timing, so I wanted to make sure the logs I was looking as was Quadzilla not OEM. Anything under 120*f ect will use OEM timing as well.  

 

OEM timing will be very high when cold as well.

Gotcha. I will keep that in mind for future reference. 

@Me78569 Here is a data log of some WOT pulls. 2(x) 0 to 90ish and 1 50 to 90. 

 

Let me know what you think. 

iQuad-2017-09-26-02.08.06.csv

I think you either have a bad map sensor or your wastegate is opening randomly.  you are hitting 40 psi of boost but only for a few seconds then it comes back down to 26 psi. 

 

I am gonna guess wastegate issues, note how boost jumps 3 times in the log

 

Alrigh, one thing to mention is that during this run I did have the egt defuel set to 1400. Could that have caused it to drop?

I will check out the wastegate and see what I can come up with. 

Doesn't look like it. 

 

I see fueling stable when boost climbs, but then boost just falls out.  I really think the wastegate is opening.  

So, if I pull and plug the reference line to the waste gate it should stay closed correct? Just to verify it's the waste gate?

not if the wastegate itself is damaged.    

 

Do you have a boost elbow installed?  

Yes. It is turned all the way in. 

FYI, once i know I can go over 40 I will set the tune to defule at 35 to be safe. Lol

Won't that also mean I need to drop my boost scaling to 35?

How about now? Higher boost or still the same thing?

iQuad-2017-09-26-05.07.10.csv

same thing,  I see boost climbing to 40 then dropping back to 27 without any change in the fueling or timing.  Still looks like the wastegate is popping open.