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Hello again, I have had this starting problem for about 6 or 8 months now at least and I'm getting tired of it. I cant find any write ups online about it. Its a 1998 dodge cummins obviously. I don't really know how to describe it cause it is so random and all the lights work and try fires up fine once it finally cranks over. I'de guess about every 40th turn of the key is a dud and then the next 20 or 30 cranks after that are dude until the truck decides it wants to crank over and start. What could this be? I have checked every fuse in the truck that a test light can check. I have eyeballed all the square fuses under the hood. Everything seems okay. It has a new ignition in it, my father replaced it before i got the truck cause he thought that was the cause of the truck dieing(was vp44/ecm) so got new vp44 and rebuilt ecm. I believe it was the ignition anyways. I have the part and the box for the new one in it somewhere. Batteries are new and cable end are new with di electric grease slathered generously. It has a oreileys starter on it. It was put on truck when I replaced clutch as my original one was from autozone. But the shop I was at had an oreileys one in the box so we put it on.

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I wouldn’t say it’s the starter clicking cause I’ve heard that before and it’s much louder than this click. It just sounds like a relay kicking on when I twist the key but nothing happens

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That is how my started sounded when it quit on me.  The contacts in my starter were shot.  I kept thinking it was something else.  As soon as i would turn the key I would hear the click and then nothing.  There was nothing consistent about when it would fail.  Sometimes it would do it and other times it wouldn't.  One time when it wouldn't start I had someone tap on the starter with a hammer while I held the key and it would finally turn over. 

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2 hours ago, Waydin_Stewart said:

So why wont my 500hp clutch hold anything above level 6 on my quadzilla?

 

Don't forget your clutch is rated at flywheel toque, not rear wheel torque.

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4 hours ago, kzimmer said:

 

Don't forget your clutch is rated at flywheel toque, not rear wheel torque.

its 500 and 1000. So, on level 7 it will hold until about 2300ish and then spin so i let off. on level 8-10 it wont hold at all. just slips as soon as turbo spools. Thank you for clearing that up! I always thought it was rated at the rear wheels and the hp/tq rating they give was the threshold of rear wheel power.

 

4 hours ago, Hawkez said:

That is how my started sounded when it quit on me.  The contacts in my starter were shot.  I kept thinking it was something else.  As soon as i would turn the key I would hear the click and then nothing.  There was nothing consistent about when it would fail.  Sometimes it would do it and other times it wouldn't.  One time when it wouldn't start I had someone tap on the starter with a hammer while I held the key and it would finally turn over. 

 

Thank you! I will try to test the starter relay swap and then I will go back to the shop and swap out starters again for my old one.

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15 hours ago, Waydin_Stewart said:

Thank you! I will try to test the starter relay swap and then I will go back to the shop and swap out starters again for my old one.

Before putting your old one back in, open it up and look at the contacts.

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14 hours ago, Hawkez said:

Before putting your old one back in, open it up and look at the contacts.

I would have no idea what to be looking for or even how to do it. My original starter is an autozone lifetime warranty. the one on it is oreileys lifetime warranty. I dont think theyll take it back if its tore apart haha