We found a truck down in Muskogee, OK the other day that is a 99 and has a cracked 53 BUT it comes with a 56 block out of an 02 for free and today I'm supposed to put a down payment on it. My question before I screw myself is, WILL THE 02 WORK IN A 99. Got a hell of a deal and don't wanna find myself upside down in this deal.

Not without issues. There is sn article in the 2nd gen section about this very thing. Sorry I can't link it at the moment.

Won't work. Wiring issues, cam issues, gear case issue, etc. Best to buy another 1999 engine that way there are no issues. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Won't work. Wiring issues, cam issues, gear case issue, etc. Best to buy another 1999 engine that way there are no issues. 

 

 

Ok, we decided we are gonna stitch it probably. Will an 01 work in a 99 or still problems? Both are 5spd SO.

3 minutes ago, TheGreatWhite said:

Will an 01 work in a 99 or still problems? Both are 5spd SO.

 

No. Again gear case issues, cam issues wiring issues. only a 98.5, 99 or 2000. 

 

3 minutes ago, TheGreatWhite said:

Ok, we decided we are gonna stitch it probably

 

That won't work either. Most fail again after stitch the black back together. 

 

The only thing you could do is convert the entire truck over to 2001 or 2002 but this requires replacing all the wiring harness cab included, change the gear case, change the cam, change both PCM and ECM as a pair. 

 

Still much easier to find a 98.5, 99, or 2000 engine. 

Edited May 25, 20186 yr by Mopar1973Man

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

No. Again gear case issues, cam issues wiring issues. only a 98.5, 99 or 2000. 

 

 

That won't work either. Most fail again after stitch the black back together. 

 

The only thing you could do is convert the entire truck over to 2001 or 2002 but this requires replacing all the wiring harness cab included, change the gear case, change the cam, change both PCM and ECM as a pair. 

 

Still much easier to find a 98.5, 99, or 2000 engine. 

The guy we are taking it to has a lifetime warranty and guarantees it to not recrack and hasn't had anyone come back though. I've also read and heard from multiple people that it is a permanent fix that people don't know about

2 minutes ago, TheGreatWhite said:

The guy we are taking it to has a lifetime warranty and guarantees it to not recrack and hasn't had anyone come back though. I've also read and heard from multiple people that it is a permanent fix that people don't know about

 

This would be a first... I've never heard of a stitched block holding up...

4 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

This would be a first... I've never heard of a stitched block holding up...

Either way we don't have many options, we have 2 motors, the 02 HO with blowby and an 01 SO slightly cracked 53 and apparently neither will work, so what's really our other option? Hard to find an older motor like that around here. My only hope is that the truck is a 99.5 and we can put the 01 in it.

The problem is the crank sensor was moved to the cam. Then the early version cam sensor was removed. The cam gear has a tone ring now in the later series so this requires changing the cam. Since the cam tone ring is in a different position then that means the gear case has to be swapped. If you think you can just swap the electronics this typically turns into a bigger issue because of the wiring difference and communication difference between early and late trucks. 

 

This is why its best to get the same year of engine that way there are no issues with electronics versus mechanical. 

 

If you give me a call some time I can explain easier on the phone what the problem is and why this is such a headache to deal with. 

32 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

The problem is the crank sensor was moved to the cam. Then the early version cam sensor was removed. The cam gear has a tone ring now in the later series so this requires changing the cam. Since the cam tone ring is in a different position then that means the gear case has to be swapped. If you think you can just swap the electronics this typically turns into a bigger issue because of the wiring difference and communication difference between early and late trucks. 

 

This is why its best to get the same year of engine that way there are no issues with electronics versus mechanical. 

 

If you give me a call some time I can explain easier on the phone what the problem is and why this is such a headache to deal with. 

That would be easier in my opinion to talk over the phone. How do I get in contact with you?

1 hour ago, TheGreatWhite said:

That would be easier in my opinion to talk over the phone. How do I get in contact with you?

 

Bottom of ANY page should have "Contact Us" and it has my phone number listed there. 

 

https://mopar1973man.com/contact/

 

BR 549. Mikey is always there!!!

On 5/25/2018 at 4:56 PM, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Bottom of ANY page should have "Contact Us" and it has my phone number listed there. 

 

https://mopar1973man.com/contact/

 

Sorry I just saw this, never notified me that you responded. I will call you whenever you're free, since its Memorial day now.

11 minutes ago, TheGreatWhite said:

Sorry I just saw this, never notified me that you responded

 

Check your personal notifications and see if it's turned on. 

 

11 minutes ago, TheGreatWhite said:

I will call you whenever you're free, since its Memorial day now.

 

Anytime I'm around today, gone tomorrow...

Just now, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Check your personal notifications and see if it's turned on. 

 

 

Anytime I'm around today, gone tomorrow...

Yeah it's on, must have missed it.... I'll call you later if that's fine.

Sure... Give me a call...

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-powertrain/2427946-completed-1998-5-2001-ho-engine-swap.html

 

FWIW

19 minutes ago, dave110 said:

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-powertrain/2427946-completed-1998-5-2001-ho-engine-swap.html

 

FWIW

That paints a whole new picture!!!! Thank you so much!!!