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Had a seat belt warning light on ever since I got the truck, now after over a year I just can't put it off anymore as I need to MOT it ( Ministry of Transport) safety check, once a year up until 40 years old then not needed.

Checked it out and drivers side didn't feel right, 4 wires to the seat not 2 so I checked the ones for the belt solenoid and 12v and earth as expected, jumpered the 2 and still the same, I swapped the controller and it was still the same so took the drivers seat out and swapped it for the seat out of my 3500, still the same, finally swapped the passenger seat and now all is good, warning light goes out after the check, I suppose it could be the passenger belt on it's own but the drivers side does not feel right, the drivers out of my 3500 is power so swapped in the power seat fuse and thats all working, I probably won't leave them in the 2500 as for 1 they are leather and get way too hot in the sun and I prefer it to look as close to factory as possible, so what are my options being as I can't got to parts yards and I can't ship 2 seats to the UK, has anyone replaced the solenoid ??      Can't see any on ebay.com either

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    Ive never seen a seatbelt light in my 98 12v at all. Ill head out to a yard in the next few weeks and see if I can come up with a couple.

  • I recieved this from whitelightening maybe 2 months ago but since I had the seats out of my 3500 fitted and it had passed it's yearly i've only just found the time to sort this out, I fitted the belt

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My 02's seatbelt will extend at any time, key on or off. And a new to me latch stopped my searbelt light from illuminating. I have never noticed the belt lock on deceleration but dont believe I pay that much attention to it. I do know on some bumpy that will lock as I seem to move around more in the seat on those type of roads.

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Just a steep slope on my truck is enough to lock the seat belt and piss me off. The later truck use a swinging weight system to lock the seat belt. 

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Problem is the module under the centre seat needs to see a resistance in each seatbelt circuit, warning light comes on if it sees and open  (disconnected) or short ( both wires bridged together) Tonight I connected a 50ohm resistor across the 2 wires and the module puts the light on at key on/start as it should then does all the checks and puts the light off, so a 50ohm resistor works and fools the module into thinking the solenoid is connected and working so this would work on the original seat that has the solenoid missing, trouble is the resistor gets a little too hot for my liking, I did try and find a 12v relay to check ohms on that but I've only got 24v in my van so I'll check tomorrow at work for one, my other option is to pot the resistor into a heatsink, the next steps will depend on whether whitelightening can find a belt but I still think it's worth making a plug in box that will fool the module as wrecking yard belts won't last forever, this needs to be figured out as when the seatbelt light is on the airbag sysyem is disabled AFAIK.

The seatbelt works fine with no solenoid it's just the module has a ball bearing inside that if the truck is over a certain angle or upside down it makes a connection and the solenoids tension the belts

Got an email from pick-n-pull this morning and they are having a memorial day sale so I went junk yard dogging and picked you up a passenger side seat belt from a 99 for $10.

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6 hours ago, 98whitelightnin said:

Got an email from pick-n-pull this morning and they are having a memorial day sale so I went junk yard dogging and picked you up a passenger side seat belt from a 99 for $10.

Wow that was quick. Thank you. I've sent you a message for shipping and payment 

Neil, send me your email and I’ll send you some pics to make sure this assembly has what you need

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Hi thats the best I can say is right,  my belt has no solenoid so I have to take the chance this is correct, It looks right to me, I will take all responsability  no problem... please go ahead and figure out a total cost  and I'll PP

Thanks

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I took another look and yes the belt you have is correct, checked the part njumber and that is correct also thanks

 

let me know a cost including shipping

Great, I was waiting to hear back from you before I shipped. I go back to work wednesday and I'll get you cost.

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:thumb1::thanks:

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I recieved this from whitelightening maybe 2 months ago but since I had the seats out of my 3500 fitted and it had passed it's yearly i've only just found the time to sort this out, I fitted the belt reel to my original seat and fitted it back in the truck, drivers side was at the time still the leather seat out of my 3500, warning light out and reels working good, refitted the original drivers seat and all ok, over a few days I noticed that the seatbelt warning light would come on intermittantly and then go out and be fine for a while then come on again so I checked ohms on the drivers seat, on this there is 4 wires not 2 which after seeing the passenger side complete from whitelightening was a little confusing as pass side is 1 solenoid, 2 wires, so I pulled the drivers cover and there are 2 solenoids one top, one bottom of the reel, PO or should I say PAO had butchered the lower solenoid and the casing was not attached to the reel but not open circuit, so I got that fixed and all aligned to work and checked the top which ohmed ok, but after scratching head and a beer or 2 and several key on checks bingo open circuit on the top solenoid, check it again all ok.

If the seatbelt module sees a fault it puts the warning on and disables the abs, now my question to Dodge is WHY when they used the cheapest made in god knows where solenoids, I asked earlier in this thread if anyone knew what the noids were like with a view to replacement, well I can answer that, they are absolute junk and by the time you got them out of the plastic housing it would be for the bin..... Million mile motor in a 50k electrical system.

If I lived in the USA I'd be scouring yards buying electrical parts and piling them high to sell later

and much thanks to whitelightening who has agreed to find this peice

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