Posted January 28, 201015 yr when i install a new airdog pump will i need a new draw straw and should i plum it through my stock filter housing. is there any advantage to the airdog 100 over the 150 for a stock to mild engine.
January 29, 201015 yr Owner AD 100 is the easiest to install yes you can use the stock pickup tube... But if there is any air problems check the quick connector at the stock pickup. AD 150 is a bit tougher being you got to drop the fuel tank to install the drawstraw but final product will handle more load longer... http://mopar.mopar1973man.com/personal/2002/airdog-150/airdog-150.htm
January 29, 201015 yr I would run the 100 for ease of install. Its still enough fuel for a lot more power than stock. I also would run it thru the OE filter bowl based on the AD's lack of f/w separation. Put a Baldwin PF7977 in the OE cansiter, its a 3rd gen filter and is rated for 3x the flow of the OE 2nd gen filter.
January 29, 201015 yr Owner AH64ID said: I would run the 100 for ease of install. Its still enough fuel for a lot more power than stock. I also would run it thru the OE filter bowl based on the AD's lack of f/w separation. Put a Baldwin PF7977 in the OE cansiter, its a 3rd gen filter and is rated for 3x the flow of the OE 2nd gen filter. Currently doing exactly that... I've got my stock fuel filter still hooked up and the filter in it... It for the gelling problem more so for me... But as for water problems I've never had any yet...
January 29, 201015 yr AH64ID said: I would run the 100 for ease of install. Its still enough fuel for a lot more power than stock. I also would run it thru the OE filter bowl based on the AD's lack of f/w separation. Put a Baldwin PF7977 in the OE cansiter, its a 3rd gen filter and is rated for 3x the flow of the OE 2nd gen filter. The Baldwin will pass 3x more fuel, how does it filter? I have always used OE since day one on my ISB.
January 29, 201015 yr flman said: The Baldwin will pass 3x more fuel, how does it filter? I have always used OE since day one on my ISB. Its a 5um absolute rated at 98% free water and 95% emulsifed water removal.
January 30, 201015 yr Mine take the Fleetguard FS-1268 Fuel Filter cartridges, I am not sure the Dodge has the same filter, but I can get Baldwin products at Fleetpride.So I want the 5um?
January 30, 201015 yr flman said: Mine take the Fleetguard FS-1268 Fuel Filter cartridges, I am not sure the Dodge has the same filter, but I can get Baldwin products at Fleetpride. So I want the 5um? I didn't notice the Freightliner part, but it appears to use the same fitler as the ISB in the Ram. The PF7977 "should" work.. I say "should" as I have only verifed that on the Ram apps, but like I said your FS1268 crosses to a Dodge app. Do you just have a FASS pump, or FASS filters too?
January 30, 201015 yr No such thing as a Freightliner part number, because this could have been built with a lot of different engines. I just have the Fass pump, I was mainly concerned about positive fuel pressure.
January 30, 201015 yr Author Mopar1973Man said: Currently doing exactly that... I've got my stock fuel filter still hooked up and the filter in it... It for the gelling problem more so for me... But as for water problems I've never had any yet... was thinking about running through tr canister with no filter for fuel warming capability
January 30, 201015 yr clong1959 said: was thinking about running through tr canister with no filter for fuel warming capability I honeslty dont think you would gain anything. I gelled this winter and it gelled at my 20um filter, long before it got to my fuel heater. So with a AD or FASS you have to go thru 2 filters to get to the heater.
January 30, 201015 yr AH64ID said: I honeslty dont think you would gain anything. I gelled this winter and it gelled at my 20um filter, long before it got to my fuel heater. So with a AD or FASS you have to go thru 2 filters to get to the heater. When I started my truck this morning (-4 degrees), the fuel pressure only went to 4 psi. It started to rise very slowly and after about 5 minutes at idle it reached normal pressure. I thought about buying a stock fuel canister and plumbing it in to warm the fuel (my original one leaked so I removed it), but I don't know if this will do any good if the gelling is occurring in the filters? I've never had a gelling problem before so I think it might be because of where I bought my fuel from. It wasn't my normal gas station.
January 30, 201015 yr AH64ID said: The PF7977 "should" work.. Baldwin crossed the FS1268 to this part number PF7777, for heavy trucks, and Chrysler. It looks just like the Fleetguard filter. They are all the same physical size as the PF7977? http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/
January 31, 201015 yr flman said: Baldwin crossed the FS1268 to this part number PF7777, for heavy trucks, and Chrysler. It looks just like the Fleetguard filter. They are all the same physical size as the PF7977? http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/ Thats the same info I have found.. The PF7977 is a enhanced version of the PF7777.
January 31, 201015 yr The PF7777 is rated for light duty and the PF7977 is rated for heavy duty trucks that would burn more fuel stock. The PF7777 looks like paper by its yellow color, the PF7977 is a white synthetic fiber, and the Fleetguard FS1268 that my truck calls for is the white synthetic fiber as well.Here are the pics side by side. Could you give us a link where you got the data on those filters?
January 31, 201015 yr A yahoo search of specs brings me to our friends a CF http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/3rd-gen-powertrain/101850-baldwin-pf7777-filter-please-help.html
January 31, 201015 yr I personally have zero info on the PF7777, but have an email out to get some. I have gotten all my specs from Bladwin thru emails. Here is a link to some filter data I have collected. http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/3rd-gen-tech-articles/150422-3rd-gen-popular-fuel-filter-data.html
January 31, 201015 yr Seems like the PF7777 is the older style? http://www.baldwinfilters.com/literature/english/8%20Service%20Engineering%20Bulletins/06_1.pdf
January 31, 201015 yr flman said: Seems like the PF7777 is the older style? http://www.baldwinfilters.com/literature/english/8%20Service%20Engineering%20Bulletins/06_1.pdf It does appear so.. So I would expect its flow to be lower like the Fleetguard one for 00-02.
January 31, 201015 yr Author Mopar1973Man said: Went to snag it back for us... Great work there in the information... I use the hasting ff1260 filter so wouldn't a raptor pump give me the same filtration with better water separation then the airdog.Its my understanding the Hastings is the same filter as the Baldwin. Edited January 31, 201015 yr by clong1959
when i install a new airdog pump will i need a new draw straw and should i plum it through my stock filter housing. is there any advantage to the airdog 100 over the 150 for a stock to mild engine.