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  1. This describes how to lift the bed up on a 2nd gen to get to the tank to replace the in tank lift pump/fuel level sending unit. First this was done on a 2x4, short bed truck. As I understand it, the long bed has to have the bumper removed or the bed will hit it. Tools: 10mm & 15mm socket Flat & Phillips tip screw drivers 7mm socket for hose clamps on filler tube (Optional). Hose loosening tool (Optional). strap Wrench (Maybe Optional). Prop rod for bed (48" on 2x4 truck) The first thing I did was to remove the spare tire to remove as much weight as possible. Im not sure if you could do this w/o removing the tire, having it out sure made things easier. Next I removed the license plate and the plastic piece that holds the plate onto the truck. I dont think that this needs to get removed, however I did not want to change smashing the plastic & lights, so I removed them. Next I removed the hoses that goto the filler neck and the vent line. You can use a flat tip screw driver, but I preffered using a 1/4" drive 7mm socket. I used the hose loosening tool to break the hoses loose from the tubes that come off of the filler neck so I would not have to pull on them hard. they are just aluminum & they go into a plastic piece & I can see breaking that by cranking on it hard to get the hoses loose. Next was to remove 4 of the 6 bed bolts, and to loosen the aft 2 bolts almost all of the way out. If this is for a long bed truck the bumper has to get removed, and there are 8 bolts (6 out & 2 loosened). on the Passenger side, there is a grounding strap that goes from the frame to the bed. I used a 10mm socket & removed it from the bed. Once I had everything out & ready to go, we lifted the bed up & I measured how long of a prop rod I would need, and we put the bed back down. on my truck it was exactly 48" long. Once I cut some 1" thick wall tubing, 48" long, we lifted the bed up & I put the prop rod in. I put it up against the frame between the front spring mount & the bed mount. Once the bed was propped up, it was easy to get to the tank. Next thing to do is to use a small flat tip screw driver & remove the 2 hoses going to the sending unit & the electrical connector on the sending unit. there is a little red latch that has to get slid aft then you can push the lock on the electrical connector & slide it off of the sending unit. Next is to get the ring that holds the sending unit to the tank. Mine was a bear to get lose. I used a strap wrench & got it off. then the sending unit will come straight up & out. assembly is just reverse of the removal, however there is something to keep in mind. the sending unit is 15.25" long & the tank is 14" deep (bottom of the tank to the top of the flange. so when your tightening the ring, you have to collapse the springs on the sending unit 1.25". if the ring that holds the sending unit is not tight, you will be able to push down on the sending unit & continue to push the springs down. make sure you tighten the ring enough to seal the sending unit to the top of the tank but not so tight you break the threads on the ring or tank. I had to use the strap wrench to get it tight enough to seal. I could easily see that if you were using your hands to tighten the ring that you would think it was tight, but it is not. Bob
  2. Well...... I just got back from a test ride & the fuel pressure is awesome. 15+ @ idle and I could not get it to go down <12 @ WOT. thanks to everyone for the help. If anyone is interested I can write up a thread on how to do this evolution & everything that is involved. Bob FWIW, I blew and sucked through both the old & new one & I could not get it to stop the flow in either direction regardless of orientation. seems like a vent to me with a little cotton/screen/filter in it. Bob I thought about doing the same thing. however I needed to get some stuff done today (Honey-do list stuff) so I opted to just put it back together & get it going.
  3. @ibmobile, thanks for the offer. I have 2 strapping young men here that I used as slave labor (my boys). Lol. It was very simple to get the bed up. I will write something up when I get the pictures downloaded. Next..... I wonder if the pump is not fine and the filter is just plugged... It is WAY dirtier than it was Tha last time I removed it. Last time it was pristine. I chickened out and went with what I know and bought another oem setup. This is an intermediate step. I need to get it running then will worry about upgrading it next summer. So..... Now I'm wondering if I should remove the filter from the new one and just let the filter do it's job. Seems like a good way to ruin a fuel pump but what is going on now is not good. The real question is how is all of this dust getting into the tank.... So what does the fitting on the left do?? The one that is not connected to anything? I'm guessing it's the vent for the tank. I wonder if that is not how the dirt is getting into the tank... So what does the fitting on the left do?? The one that is not connected to anything? I'm guessing it's the vent for the tank. I wonder if that is not how the dirt is getting into the tank... This is the back side of that fitting... I hate to keep throwing up all of these questions without anyone having a chance to reply..... So what does this thing do? I'm guessing it's a pressure regulator. There is a spring in it that pops open when the pressure gets to high. This way they can out in just about any pump and it will give them the output pressure they want...
  4. @trreed, thanks, I think Im going to give this a go. @Dieselfuture, Ive seen that before & never really knew what it did. Very cool option to forums. Ive learned something today, I think Im going to go home. LOL. Bob
  5. Trreed, Doing that does not hose up the bed where the bolts are still going through the bed & frame? Did you have to disconnect the lights & the spare tire rod? (I would imagine so). thanks again folks!!! Bob Did that to a 3rd gen Camaro. lifted up the carpet & took a pair of Snips to the "trunk". the hard part was the hard lines that come off of the sending unit........ And to be honest............ I thought about that for this, but I cant do that to this truck.....
  6. The pump still works, so I dont think it will be that hard to get the fuel out, I just have to make up a jumper to turn on the relay for the lift pump & disconnect it from the filter housing & pump it into some jugs. but.............. how long will it take to remove 30 gallons of fuel......... long enough that I could have pulled the bed up and out of the way??? FWIW, when I did it last time, the truck was more than high enough that the tank came right out from underneath the truck. thanks Bob
  7. i saw a video online of a guy that used 4 ratchet straps and tightened them as he needed to tilt the bed. Kind of clever. I took a good look between the cab and bed and it looks like the bed only needs to go back about a foot to get to the tank. I might give that a go..... Thanks Bob
  8. So, what is the easiest way to remove the fuel pump from the tank??? drop the tank or remove the bed??? When I did it in 2010 I dropped the tank. it was close to empty though & I was thinking if it saves me some time by removing the bed, that might be the way to go......... I have 30+ gallons in it now... Kind of looks to me like a 6 of one 1/2 Dozen of the other kind of thing.......... not sure how heavy it is, but I will probably only have 4 people here to lift the bed off and dont want to beat the heck out of it........ can you just slide it back a few feet & still get to the sender??? so it does not have to come all the way off?? thanks Bob
  9. With any luck I will have mine out this weekend. I might have the original Factory one in the shed & put it back into the truck, when I get the new pump. I need to call around this morning. Bob
  10. It should............. it is brand new. not 100 Miles on it...........
  11. Well......... I swung by & picked up a couple of fuel filters just as a sanity check. Filter looks fine, nothing in it. I looked in the filter housing & there was nothing in it either. its a nice green color now with the 2 stroke oil in it. good thing Im Irish. LOL. I checked the fuel pressure gauge to make sure its reading correctly & it is. So............ looks like Im dropping the fuel tank this weekend (assuming this cold does not get any worse.). so much for tackling the Dash/heater/AC this weekend........ I have to call around tomorrow & see who can get me a fuel pump by the weekend. bah humbug. & FWIW, I will likely do my own thing with the Draw Straw. other than the big $$$ options, Im not overly enthousiastic about the options out there. I will likely overthink it....... LOL. thanks again folks. Bob Fwiw...... It was a little chilly this morning. I don't know that I would call it cold..... I've been to great lakes Michigan, I know what cold is. Lol. Bob
  12. thanks folks, looks like I have some homework (and possibly more expense). Im going to start with the basics & go from there. Bob
  13. which Airdog do you have? Being as I just put in a new fuel filter housing I was going thinking about just getting the 100 GPH pump with no filter & mount it to the frame where my Mallory presently is. that means though that Im going to have to get into the tank anyway to get the existing pump out. Plus I have AN Fittings on my truck which means Im going to have to figure out what type of fitting is on the pump & find something that will go from that to -6 AN. And I guess I will have to figure out this draw straw thing. I think that the AirDog that is for internal pumps comes with something, but its not very clear from the sites I have been looking at. thanks Bob
  14. I had to replace the fuel filter housing with the 2000 version, because the top cracked @ the test ports. the gauge is on the output of the filter housing. everything from the filter housing through the injectors are brand new (filter, housing, inj pump, & injectors). I suppose the filter could be plugged up, but in 2 weeks........... ??? I will be checking it tonight. Im guessing the lift pump is on its way out. its been in there for a while...... that said, I know Gas in tank pumps last for a very long time, & I cant get any kind of solid answer on a rule of thumb for the Diesel ones. I dont see why they would not live a long time (Unless they are just shitty pumps). I did not take any pictures of the in tank pump when I put it in, so I dont remember exactly what it looks like, but IIRC its just a short round pump like just about every other one Ive ever seen. I wonder if Aeromotive or any of those aftermarket folks make a replacement pump. Might be too small of a market for them............. thanks folks Bob
  15. Sorry, not following you......... is there a better in tank solution to the OEM pump? if so, what is it? I like the in tank solution, if there is a better pump Im in! BTW, I disconnected the grid heaters on Sunday & this morning got a P1291 code. I guess I will hook them back up. Im tired of the CEL coming on. This time I did as suggested & disconnected the heater wires instead of the relay activation wires. I would guess its because the IAT sensor is not seeing an increase in air temp. thanks again folks. Bob
  16. Morning folks, Not sure how many of you caught what I wrote last night (before my edit), Im very frustrated with this truck. the last 9 or 10 months have been a PITA, & its not all the trucks fault. I got to thinking about it on the way into work this morning & I have @ least six, fuel jugs, Im sure I can wire up a jumper to turn the lift pump on & pump the fuel out. I presently have a Mallory 140 bolted to the frame rail that was my lift pump for quite a few years (before it died). I could go back to that or some other pump, but not sure what to go with. I will do some research & see what others think. Ive heard about the "draw straw" before, however dont really know what that is about, I guess its time to learn. input or guidance on where to look for input on Lift Pumps would be appreciated. 015point9, thanks for the input. thanks Bob
  17. Folks, in 2010, I put the Dodge in tank Lift Pump retrofit into my 99. Its been rock solid since. As some of you might know, I have recently made a bunch of changes to my truck (ECM, Inj Pump, 275 Bosch injectors, 2000 Fuel Filter housing) and this afternoon the lift pump pressure started doing wonky things. its normally around 18 or 19 @ idle, and 14 or 15 cruising down the highway. Sunday I took the truck/Trailer/Buggy for a ride to make sure it was happy with the hills around my area & it seemed to be quite happy. when I got home I put the trailer away & filled up the truck to see what kind of mileage I got (10 BTW). When I got home I put some of the 2 stroke oil in it & put the truck away. When I was headed home this evening I noticed that the fuel pressure was lower than I expected it to be, so I whomped on it & it dropping down to 7 or 8 Lbs. I dont think I have ever seen it that low.......... and to go from 20 Lbs to 7 Lbs is very concerning... so......... Im wondering......... A: How long do these pumps live? B: Can a slight leak in #3 injector line (@ the transfer tube), cause this to happen..... C: Is there an easy way to pull 33 Gallons of fuel out of the tank? D: Does anyone make a good in-tank pump? I know everyone is going to say put a FASS/AirDogg/AFE/ETC, pump on it. I could but, I do like the in tank option, and if Im going to have to drop the tank to take the OEM pump out, Id like to put another one in. E: How long do FASS/AirDogg/AFE pumps live? 10/15 years, 100K/150K? F: Is there any reason to think that adding the 2 stroke oil into the fuel could cause this? I cant imagine it would, but thought I would ask;..... thanks Gents. Im back to hating this truck again. ROFLOL. Bob
  18. The rest of the folks on the board are crying (or laughing) about our "lows".......... Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
  19. during some recent testing, I unplugged the relays @ the coil wires to the relays & it threw a code. I did not disconnect the big hoses to the relays @ the battery, but might consider it, given how hard it beats up on the batteries & Alternator. Im in San Diego, so......... not like it is going to get cold. LOL.
  20. Probably not much more than what you got from talking with him. His shop is in Lakeside @ the end of the 67. Here is the story of my ECM issues. Bob
  21. FWIW, I used https://carcomputerexchange.com/index.php and had a much less than pleasurable experience. I ended up going to a local guy who TOTALLY took care of me. http://www.blacksmokin.com/ Bob
  22. thanks guys. I know its pretty far off topic, but did you buy the OEM Dodge dash (& where did you get it from)? Has anyone tried the Geno's garage Dash? thanks again Bob
  23. thank you sir!! can you replace the dash top w/o having to remove it can see that you can get to the Pass side screws, in the video, but can you get to the drivers side as well? Bob