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What helicopter is this?

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ISX    58
ISX

Figured AH64 or someone else might know. This thing flys over our house at least once a week.

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bjytech    85
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From the helicopters I know it looks to me like its an Apache.

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ISX    58
ISX

I just went to the website of the base around here and they got nothing but apache pictures and they all look the same as what I got a pic of. Guess that narrows it down :lol: There were 2 fighters flying right next to each other about 20 min later. What I don't understand is why the helicopter has the same path, every single time. I assume they just follow an aerial route or something. Probably like "go over the guys house who always has his hood open, then turn around and go back over it, then leave, if he looks to be up to no good, circle him a few times". They do circle a few times a lot :lmao:

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AH64ID    651
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Yes Sir, those would be Apaches. How close are you to the airfield? And which airfield is it? You are probably on a training or approach/departure route. I would guess with the circling your just outside tower's airspace and they circle when they can't contact tower.

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ISX    58
ISX

Yes Sir, those would be Apaches.

How close are you to the airfield? And which airfield is it?

You are probably on a training or approach/departure route. I would guess with the circling your just outside tower's airspace and they circle when they can't contact tower.

The seem to head diagonally circling my house then going torwards sedalia until I can't see them, they usually circle back around before getting to sedalia.

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AH64ID    651
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The 1-135 ARB is part of the Missouri National Guard and they are located on the Whitman AFB.

Looking at that map it appears they are doing traffic patterns at the Sedalia Memorial Airfield, probably IFR (Instrument Flight Rules).

If I remember correctly they are one of the last AH-64A Battalions (like us) in the military. All the A models are being turned into D models (Longbows).

--- Update to the previous post...

Looks to me like they could be in the procedure turn for NDB 18.

http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/1011/05584N18.PDF

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ISX    58
ISX

Oh for petes sakes that dot in the middle is my damn house, they do that exact pattern around it. I knew they had to be saying "start turning when you see the guy with his hood opens house". They also do the same pattern for the B2 bombers. What exactly are they doing, just testing instruments or training?

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JOHNFAK    85
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Oh for petes sakes that dot in the middle is my damn house, they do that exact pattern around it. I knew they had to be saying "start turning when you see the guy with his hood opens house". They also do the same pattern for the B2 bombers. What exactly are they doing, just testing instruments or training?

We're watching you ISX ......... we KNOW EVERYTHING :evilgrin:

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AH64ID    651
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Yeah its just part of a conspiracy to see what your doing on your truck on any given day... and we know about the sheep :nono:j/k, yeah its probably instrument training.

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ISX    58
ISX

I've seen jets out here a few times shooting each other for a half hour. I didn't know they could do that. Guess it doesn't matter but was pretty interesting.

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dually    0
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I am a total goof for them flyin machines.:cookoo: I run like a 7 year old that hears the ice cream truck whenever i hear choppers.Yesterday i was 12 feet up on scaffolding i set my stuff down and ran out the building:hyper: only to find out that a lawn mower reflected sound into this echo chamber of a factory i am working on.:lol:

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ISX    58
ISX

I am a total goof for them flyin machines.:cookoo: I run like a 7 year old that hears the ice cream truck whenever i hear choppers. Yesterday i was 12 feet up on scaffolding i set my stuff down and ran out the building:hyper: only to find out that a lawn mower reflected sound into this echo chamber of a factory i am working on.:lol:

:lmao: I do the same thing. In fact the apache was back out yesterday. One thing that will drive you nuts is that when the B2 bomber comes, you will hear it AFTER it goes by. When it is coming towards you or above you, you can't hear anything, but after it gets passed you it sounds like a normal jet. I would have thought the noise would hit you before it did because it only goes like 550mph. They sure made it stealthy.

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ISX    58
ISX

I've been working in Little Rock, Arkansas for a few weeks and there is an air force base just north of where we are and I watched planes/jets/helicopters all day. I went to their website and traced down what I was seeing.

The main thing I saw was C-130J aircraft flying in a line of up to 4. I saw a couple banking hard and there was a little brownish looking smoke trail behind each prop. That was really neat.

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The next thing I saw flying all around really loud was some little fighter jet. It looked a lot smaller than any of the ones on their site so not sure on that one. Think it was one of these thunderbirds.

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I then watched a helicopter flying really low and just doing donuts everywhere. No pics of helicopters on their site but from the list of air force aircraft but I think it was one of these UH-1 Iroquios. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-1_Iroquois

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AH64ID    651
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The thunderbirds are F-16's and a rather small jet. There are also Army National Guard Blackhawks in N Little Rock.

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flagmanruss    80
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Back before the current wars, RI Nat Guard C130s used to use our house as a turning mark... they'd fly the state borders to get their training time in. They have plenty of flying time currently with call ups...Russ

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ISX    58
ISX

Yeah it was a blackhawk. I just looked it up and yeah that's identical. Those things are a lot bigger than the apache :lol:

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AH64ID    651
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Those things are a lot bigger than the apache :lol:

Surprisingly not. The overall dimentions are very similar, and in most mission profiles the Apache is heavier. They also both use the same engines.

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ISX    58
ISX

Surprisingly not. The overall dimentions are very similar, and in most mission profiles the Apache is heavier. They also both use the same engines.

Overall as in length and width? I could believe that. The blackhawk just looks like it has a lot of room for the crew while the apache just sacrifices it for weapons. Seemed a lot slower than the apache too.

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AH64ID    651
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Overall as in length and width? I could believe that. The blackhawk just looks like it has a lot of room for the crew while the apache just sacrifices it for weapons. Seemed a lot slower than the apache too.

The Blackhawk is designed to haul passengers, and the crew sit side-by side; where the Apache only holds 2, and we sit in tandem, so the shape is much different. When you compare outside dimensions is when they are very close. Speed is all relative, depending on distance, location, and what the mission is. Sometime we are faster, but most times they can out run us. All those missile and rocket pods aren't the most aerodynamic. Believe it or not but the Chinook is the fastest helo in the Army inventory.

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ISX    58
ISX

The Blackhawk is designed to haul passengers, and the crew sit side-by side; where the Apache only holds 2, and we sit in tandem, so the shape is much different. When you compare outside dimensions is when they are very close. Speed is all relative, depending on distance, location, and what the mission is. Sometime we are faster, but most times they can out run us. All those missile and rocket pods aren't the most aerodynamic. Believe it or not but the Chinook is the fastest helo in the Army inventory.

Now that is awesome! This thing was only like 500ft up or lower so it was going slow for a reason I am sure. I didn't have any idea about the speeds of them all, other than wikipedia which tells a different story than you, but I know how wikipedia is :lmao:

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AH64ID    651
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I didn't have any idea about the speeds of them all, other than wikipedia which tells a different story than you, but I know how wikipedia is :lmao:

Max vs cruise are two very different animals.

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ISX    58
ISX

Max vs cruise are two very different animals.

Here is what wiki says, which still shows the chinook as being slow. I like to think wikipedia is right but someone with first hand experience will always dominate anything wikipedia says, to me anyways. I wonder where they got their stats though. Apache http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah64#Specifications_.28AH-64A.2FD.29 Never exceed speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h) Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h) Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h) Chinook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-47_Chinook Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h) Cruise speed: 130 kt (137 mph, 220 km/h) Black Hawk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-60_Black_Hawk Never exceed speed: 193 knots (222 mph, 357 km/h) Maximum speed: 159 kn (183 mph, 295 km/h) Cruise speed: 150 kn (173 mph, 278 km/h)

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AH64ID    651
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Mission weights and profiles will change cruise, so its hard to pin that number down..The data on the CH-47 looks slow.

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