First, my question.  I have her all torn down to the point where I just have to remove the timing cover.  Fingers crossed no grooves on crank.  222K on the clock.

 

I bought a cummins seal at the dealer.  Says cummins on the part. 

 

Question..... which way is OUT? 

 

Logic tells me this side should face INWARD towards the crank:

 

And this side OUTWARD facing away from the crank:

 

Reasoning, the second picture has a rotational marker.  when facing you it is clockwise.  when facing the front of the truck, the crank turns clockwise.

 

Why am I asking?  bc the plastic alignment piece is conical (cone shaped).  you have to pull tight from the front and it will actually expand the inside of the seal out a good bit.  i assume this is so the seal will fit over the crank shaft nose.

 

You would literally have to pull this cone through the seal by pulling it up through the seal in this photo correct?

 

 

 

 

 

btw, I am doing this via the dodge service manual which says install in the cover first.  i have no depth tool so i am going to have to wing it and hope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

this is what the dealer did to me...... twice.  he put it in the wrong way and not only did he do that he put on gray silicone rtv on both the inside and outside of the seal.  no no no no no!

 

right hand side of the photo also broke the lip the seal goes into. before i took this apart he told me to buy a new cover b/c he thinks it was warped.  ummmm.... or u broke it.

 

 

 

 

 

This one you can see how this is really installed backwards:

 

 

moparman you may know this thread from another forum.  i got banned b/c i was upset and cursed with stars to filter the words.  no warning no nothing.  just banned.  still need help though.  this has been going on for 4 months.

Edited April 4, 20169 yr by bms231

On 4/5/2016 at 9:04 PM, Mopar1973Man said:

It would help a bunch to make sure there is no debris or high spots in the crank. Like your little dings in the tip I would take a machine file and knock them down a bit. Take some emery cloth and "lightly" sand the crank where the sleeve is going. This just makes sure there is no residue or damaged metal to hang up your installation. 

Here is my question regarding the timing cover (see pics) there is significant paint and/or powder coating on the inside of the cover where the seal is installed. Any advice on this? Remove the build up without changing the shape nor scratching or putting a grove into it?  I noticed this on the timing gear cover in the video posted here as well, curious if it leaked. (Btw most pic's on this thread & the follow up thread will not open.)  I appreciate any input on this.  75K is all I have on the clock & yes it was leaking.  TY

Emery cloth and work the excessive paint out of the hole. Work slow and even. Then might put a thin film of silicone in the hole as well if your concerned. The re-assemble the gear case again. Place the seal in a different position in the case to relocate for the crank wear.

13 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Emery cloth and work the excessive paint out of the hole. Work slow and even. Then might put a thin film of silicone in the hole as well if your concerned. The re-assemble the gear case again. Place the seal in a different position in the case to relocate for the crank wear.

I was thinking along those same lines, but wanted to hear it from someone wiser than myself. On the rebuild side of all this..thank god. Work just keeps getting in the way.  Appreciate the feedback. 

7 hours ago, OmahaGen2 said:

I was thinking along those same lines, but wanted to hear it from someone wiser than myself. On the rebuild side of all this..thank god. Work just keeps getting in the way.  Appreciate the feedback. 

 

Not a problem that what we are here for is to help out. Like me work and paying billing...