Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
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I don't think anyone would.  I was looking at that third gen setup in the dash a while back and the only way that I could justify that is if I have a data plan for the Ipad and could use it like I use my phone with the radio.  That is one thing I wish we had more options with.  

 

And I know that there are those out there who have modified their dash to accept the double din units, but I don't think I would ever even consider it being that I've had my dash out and I know just how fragile the entire thing is so more cutting is not something that would help that.

Did some harsh testing this weekend , still have the engine intact , but my boost sensor is reading 2psi minimum. is it just time for one ? or how can it go bad with you guys running 60psi or better, I hit 45-47 max which is a bit much for a stocker. I cleaned it but it doesn't change still reads 2psi, from there on it matches my mechanical guage.

 

47 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

I cleaned it but it doesn't change still reads 2psi

 

Cleaning sensors does nothing... It NEVER fixes any problems.

 

48 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

how can it go bad with you guys running 60psi or better

 

The stock sensor only goes so far any ways. I know it won't make 60 PSI.

On 11/9/2016 at 10:35 AM, Mopar1973Man said:

@TFaoro

 

56 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

Did some harsh testing this weekend , still have the engine intact , but my boost sensor is reading 2psi minimum. is it just time for one ? or how can it go bad with you guys running 60psi or better, I hit 45-47 max which is a bit much for a stocker. I cleaned it but it doesn't change still reads 2psi, from there on it matches my mechanical guage.

 

Those pressures won't hurt the map sensor. Put mine into the Low 70s multiple times and never had an issue. 

9 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Cleaning sensors does nothing... It NEVER fixes any problems.

 

 

The stock sensor only goes so far any ways. I know it won't make 60 PSI.

Stock 02 sensor will go to 62psi. 

I don't think it accurate to 62 PSI. The best I've hear is about 40-45 PSI its starts to drift.

3 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I don't think it accurate to 62 PSI. The best I've hear is about 40-45 PSI its starts to drift.

It's right on with my fuel pressure sensor which is good to 100psi. Have you ever seen one that high in person? 

I'm talking about the Cummins MAP sensor. Not your boost gauge. As for mine, I've push well into the 40's a few times now with the Quadzilla. As far as what I done research on more people lose accuracy after about 40-45 PSI.

7 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I'm talking about the Cummins MAP sensor. Not your boost gauge. As for mine, I've push well into the 40's a few times now with the Quadzilla. As far as what I done research on more people lose accuracy after about 40-45 PSI.

As am I. The stock MAP follows the "fuel" pressure sensor up to 60 just fine. All 3 of my gauges are very close to each other. 

You are the rarity then.. 

Man you guys are .... funny least to say, I take it I need a new sensor then, luckily I bought one so I have it but not so lucky it's a wrong one, got it from cummins, gave them engine # and paid like 90 buck I think, so hoping they will exchange it for a right one. it's been few months now. The one I got is  4921505

24 minutes ago, Dieselfuture said:

Man you guys are .... funny least to say, I take it I need a new sensor then, luckily I bought one so I have it but not so lucky it's a wrong one, got it from cummins, gave them engine # and paid like 90 buck I think, so hoping they will exchange it for a right one. it's been few months now. The one I got is  4921505

Fun fact.... The 02 sensor is no longer made. You have to use an 01 sensor with an adapter. 

31 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

Fun fact.... The 02 sensor is no longer made. You have to use an 01 sensor with an adapter. 

 

True...I've got my old 02 sensor because I thought I had a bad one come to find out the stealth plate nut came loose. So I kept the old 02 Sensor and install the 01 sensor and the adapter.

I take it that the one i got is 01? Where do I get an adapter, 

Cummins supplies the adapter or even a parts store should have them too.

Looks like the boost is more accurate at higher pressures.... it also depends on the response from each sensor and the resolution of the quad. I can't go over 55psi right now though due to my crappy intake horn. 

One thing I forgot to mention is I also have a Turbo symbol above a needle and it's yellow what does that mean, is that a part of having a faulty  map sensor

No. Because I see it on my display too.

4 hours ago, Dieselfuture said:

One thing I forgot to mention is I also have a Turbo symbol above a needle and it's yellow what does that mean, is that a part of having a faulty  map sensor

I think the yellow means low fuel pressure. Not sure why it makes the turbo symbol yellow though.

 

That's my 1 gripe right now.... that dang fuel pressure sensor. I can't seem to root my phone to delete the code that makes it yellow, so I'll have to wait until quad comes out with a v2 no fuel pressure warning on the list of vehicles. 

Yellow turbo is the turbo timer.  If it is yellow you know the feature is enabled.

Just found the boost/map sensor adapter for 2002 model. cummins #3104228 got it from genos for $26 shipped. local cummins can get it for $19 plus tax but wanted $30 for freight or 10 days no freight.