Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
Changed the title for SEO reasons

I 've made the same request at ScanTool.Net to add audio alarms. Yeah you can have visual warnings but does nothing if your focus on roadway conditions and can be looking at your gauges. So if it visual warning I might not ever see it on either my OBDLink or Quadzilla because the position they are sitting in.So audio warning is need to alert me to out of range problem. I've gotta drive and don't always have a co-pilot to watch the gauges. 

@Dieselfuture

 

Video talking through the "latest and greatest" If you want the flash let me know and you can play with it.  If you don't have interest in the timing stuff then the tune you are running is great.

Damn, this is soooooo much better that what is currently running on iOS.  I am jealous to say the least.

I don't think iOS is to far behind,. I heard rumors from quad.

On 1/1/2017 at 10:36 PM, Me78569 said:

Factory feature? 

 

I am not following.  

Yes sorry, not sure what else you guys talked about 

 

That is awesome on timing stuff, is it not available to general public yet?  I haven't been driving my truck lately as I got a little car to get around, plus it's been pretty cold. But I would love to try it some time if you don't mind shearing it. If it will be available soon then I can wait, thanks for the offer I feel special. And great video on explaining how things work, made some things clear. Did you make the video? 

that's all me in the video.

 

i'll post the tune if you want to mess with it.  I haven't found any bugs but it is still "new" so keep that in mind. 

app-release.apk for your phone for the sliders etc

adrv2.exe  flash for the box.  

You are a man as usual, just when I thought wow finally quad is where it should of been long ago, you and quad keep coming up with better things,  it's getting hard to keep up but definitely worth the wait. Glad I didn't get rid of my quad after they left the stage few years back. Pays off waiting sometimes. 

I know I have said it before, but I think the coding is "done"  @TFaoro happy so I am happy haha.  anything beyond this will likely be proof of concept, don't run on the street type stuff.  

I'm more than happy with it, just need to spend more time playing with different settings and figure it out a 100%, it will all come togethet in the end I know it. 

Still got boost issue at idle...

 

Other than that it ran good on my performance tune all the to Boise with temps as low as minus 31F. I made 19.44 MPG. My economy tune would of been better by maybe another 1 MPG. @Me78569 you going to have to look into that math again.

I am betting dimes to dollars that once temp comes back up boost will read right again.  I don't know that there is a way to solve the issue.  

 

I could make it read 0 right now, then you would have a 2psi delay in the summer.  I am not sure what is worse?

When I did that screenshot the IAT temperature was 85F now it's 100F so the sensor isn't cold. After a period of high idle it still right at 90F for IAT.

 

I admit this morning at -31F outside I got IAT down to as low 18F that's cold and would say that holds true.

Edited January 7, 20178 yr by Mopar1973Man

Only thing I know is that in the summer the reading was correct, now everyone seems to be off by 2*.    I would say this is because the ECM has an internal baro sensor, so IAT sensor temp wouldn't change baro.

 

HOWEVER,

 

I just reviewed the SPN's for 65270, which include boost, IAT, and Air filter pressure......   There is another SPN for Barometer, but I am assuming that maybe our ECMS use "air filter pressure" as baro.  So I coded up that and I will test it at some point to see if maybe we can read baro.....

Edited January 7, 20178 yr by Me78569

I wasn't saying IAT temp was alyeri,g the value but if the IAT temp is warm so is the MAP sensor in physical temperature being they are just a few inches from each other.

 

Now considering temperature of the ECM now that might be something.  Is it possible the cold is messing with hardware of the ECM?

I think the ECM is using a sensor built into it plus battery temp or something to calculate baro pressure.  The ECM would not be using values from a sensor in the intake track.

 

We will see if there is a baro reading be reported.

Above my pay grade 

Although I'm pretty sure mine was fine when I updated to v2 tune and same day driving around it jumped to 2 psi, could be wrong though. 

Edited January 9, 20178 yr by Dieselfuture

So I coded up some stuff to read baro.

 

Baro sensor reports 0 all the time haha

 

Air filter pressure ( same PGN 65270 as boost) reports 36 all the time when calculated via the standard in the j1939 standards.  

 

not really sure what to make of that.  

The only sensor we've got that that can see any pressure at all in the intake tract is the MAP sensor. Just getting back to the simple way of looking at stuff there is only a handful of sensors on these trucks. MAP is the only one that can measure pressure for the boost value. The ECM is a seal tight can so I didn't think there would be a baro number available. As for air filter pressure there isn't a sensor like the CR engine before the turbo. So that is out.  

So if there is no baro sensor then how does the cummins ECM handle altitude?  Does it even?  

 

Why is it that the early trucks map sensors take baro into consideration, yet cummins switched sensors on late trucks to ones that don't consider baro?  

 

Seriously odd stuff going on.  I can make it show 0 psi right now, but in the summer it will have a -2* offset.  Nothing has changed in the sensor offset since summer.  

Colder denser air could account for the difference say if a turbo is spinning at 1000 Rpms at idle in 80 degree weather right now say we cool the air to say 20 or 10 degrees  for the given turbo rpm because it's going to drag in as much air as it can at a given shaft speed wouldn't that density change change the pressure in the intaketract in theory at least to an electronic sensor these trucks have cooler egts and faster boost in winter in my experience so I'd assume u could be making 2lbs at idle if the air being sucked in is dense enough