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Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

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Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising :stirthepot: 

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Well crap!!! here I go back to figuring out things a bit more. :doh: 

 

Never mind that part of my post... Still an idiot here... :sofa:

It's not your fault it is a very hard thing to explain haha.  

 

I need to do a graph for it or something.  I dunno.  

 

 

 

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What makes it hard for me to understand you are not staying to one terminology. Part of the article you refer to throttle and the other part you refer to load. I base most of my tuning on engine load than throttle being most of my time is on cruise control and throttle shows as zero.

 

I will admit when you are getting close you can pull your EGT's way down from what your use to seeing. Here is a screen capture from Council, ID valley where the speed limit is 55 MPH. Boost pressures are +1 high compared to the ISSPro.Capture+_2017-01-17-08-27-03.png

 

Then going across Indian Valley south of Council, ID where speed limit is 65 MPH.

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You were running different gears right?

Ignore that, I think my brain is in the wrong gear.

I have to take it all back now. You are turning lower rpm at 65 than 55. Won't that skew the numbers a good bit?

 

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1 hour ago, dripley said:

You are turning lower rpm at 65 than 55. Won't that skew the numbers a good bit?

 

I'm running 4th gear at 55 MPH and 5th gear at 65 MPH. This is displayed at the bottom of each screen capture right below the EGT number. 

 

@Me78569 What is the deal with oil pressure readings? 

Edited by Mopar1973Man

Not all late trucks report it.  Depends on if they got switched out for the dummy gauge wiring.

 

 

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Hey @Carbur8tr would you mind going through the process of how you got the iPhone stuff to work with the V2.2 quad? @trreed and I have been trying to get his to work with no luck. Thanks!

I updated the base flashes to set a min coolant temp of 120*f before Timing is adjusted.  Tyler pointed out an issue if you use lvl1 as anti theft .    If you jump off of level 1 then you are stuck with a cold engine and timing that is less than stellar until temps come up.  

 

I also changed cruise timing so if you set it to 0* it will never go into cruise state timing.  Figured it was a good idea to ensure that if you needed a stictly tow tune you could disable the cruise timing.  Note even setting cruise timing to .1* will renable it.  

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Any further work north of 3500 or is that were you're calling it?

 

If I try the truck just turns off.  Beyond 3500 if canbus isn't 0 then it just shuts off.

 

Wiretap will hold fueling tell ~3700, but power will fall off after 3500.

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As for my last trip, I had to modify my normal route to avalanche that closed US95 down. Now for my trip today being I avoided the I84 and 80 MPH travel and had more 55 MPH travel down Hwy 55. I turned out 24.28 MPG total for the day and high marked a bit over 26 MPG. This trip I was using my MPG fooler as well. 

You are welcome....Gonna blow that 27 out of the water during the summer.....

 

Seriously impressed

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4 hours ago, Carbur8tr said:

Any further work north of 3500 or is that were you're calling it?

 

35+ will all have to be wiretap. How smooth is it for you?

Also, @trreed and I need some help with the iQuad if you don't mind. We can't seem to get his to work correctly, so if you could give us exactly how you updated your phone and box that would be great!

Let's hope this works.  

 

First start by opening up iTunes and in the top left corner click the drop-down and select "Apps."

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With the file you downloaded that contains the updated menus, drag and drop it into an open area within your Apps.

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*** Before proceeding to the next steps make sure to delete the current iQuad App if you have one loaded on your idevice.

 

Next you will want to plug your device in and "install" the app from the "App" menu in iTunes.  Click "Apply" and make sure that your device syncs with iTunes.

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After the app has been loaded on to you device you will more than likely get the pop up below.  Don't worry this is normal and an easy fix.

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Go to your setting then to "General."

 

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Scroll down and click on "Device Management"

 

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Click on "Accella LLC" (App developer out of Maryland)

 

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Next "Trust"

 

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Then finally be sure to click "Trust"

 

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From here you should be good to go.

 

And I haven't had the chance to try the latest that Nick posted, been out on business.  Last one I ran was what you saw in the video.  Hoping to give it another shot this weekend.

you will like the hardfuel tune :)

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Thank you @Carbur8tr we'll give it a shot again. I could have sworn we followed those exact steps, but for some reason @trreed's doesn't like to display some of the variables. 

 

Out of curiosity, which vehicle do you select?

I loath apple stuff.

yep, it should pull pretty good to 3500.

Awesome, and I hear you on the apple stuff.  Too much tape on everything.

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