Hello guys I'm not sure if this has been discussed on this forum before or not. I am considering a steering upgrade for my 2000 Ram 2500. This thread is too help anyone out if they ever want to try this to. Id like to know if anyone else here has done this specific kit ill mention? The kit is from a 4th gen truck and was made specificly for upgrading third gens steering. SOmeone on Cummins Forum bought this kit for a second gen and found out that it was a awesome bolt on upgrade for second gen trucks to! Now I read that trucks with stock 16 inch wheels the stud on the end of the tie rods will hit the wheel so you have to grind off an eighth of an inch or so. I don't believe this works for 98 and 99 trucks but correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways the part # for the kit is #51122362af and that's a mopar part number. Hopefully I can try this upgrade soon but in the meantime id like to find out more about it and possibly create an article when I'm done to help others. I think you can get this kit straight from the dealer for around 350$ which is a very fair price if the upgrade is as good as mentioned. Everyone knows that our steering kind of sucks. I think that big tires and leveling kits make it worse too. This converts the steering to a t style instead of the factory y style steering. 

Edited February 8, 20187 yr by Marcus2000monster

6 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

What has he been smoking?

 

I see this kind of "Cool Factor" every where from totally slammed to the ground to jacked up a mile hifgh. To aggressive rake. No matter how you slice it the geometry of the front axle is trashed and the performance is junk. 

3 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

I see this kind of "Cool Factor" every where from totally slammed to the ground to jacked up a mile hifgh. To aggressive rake. No matter how you slice it the geometry of the front axle is trashed and the performance is junk. 

They obviously have the money to throw at their vehicles and to fuel them. Betcha that truck isn't getting 10 mpg or less lol. 

Betcha they are replacing ball joints and tierods often. Then like you mention the economy must suck being the rear gear is way lower now and out of the optimal ratio. 

 

but hey...

 

I T   L O O K S   C O O L

46 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Betcha they are replacing ball joints and tierods often. Then like you mention the economy must suck being the rear gear is way lower now and out of the optimal ratio. 

 

but hey...

 

I T   L O O K S   C O O L

 

 

 

Saw this one when I was down in Alabama. That's a corner of my job site just above the hood. He came up right after I took the picture. Got in, fired it up and it went his dd ride height. Hit a button and it went to his tow height. He had a landscape business and towed equipment and materials with. When looked in the bed you could tell he did use it. I believe he put a lot more thought and $$$ in it than the Ford guy. Still not my cup of cool.

14 hours ago, dripley said:

 

 

Saw this one when I was down in Alabama. That's a corner of my job site just above the hood. He came up right after I took the picture. Got in, fired it up and it went his dd ride height. Hit a button and it went to his tow height. He had a landscape business and towed equipment and materials with. When looked in the bed you could tell he did use it. I believe he put a lot more thought and $$$ in it than the Ford guy. Still not my cup of cool.

You have got to be kidding!! LOL!! I can not understand why someone would spend the money just so you could lower your truck to the ground. 

On 2/10/2018 at 3:17 PM, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Sometimes I wonder...

 

I wonder how that guy sees anything at night, the lights can't be illuminating much more than 6' in front of the truck.  Maybe a couple more if he cranks the adjustment all the way. 

10 hours ago, Sycostang67 said:

 

I wonder how that guy sees anything at night, the lights can't be illuminating much more than 6' in front of the truck.  Maybe a couple more if he cranks the adjustment all the way. 

He probs don't drive the dumb thing at night. LOL!

Has anyone ever used the Borgeson High flow ps pump? 

 

Heres another funny pic...

 

48 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

Has anyone ever used the Borgeson High flow ps pump?

 

Remember if you increase the flow rate you are increasing the heat in the fluid which means more fluid changes more often. 

11 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Remember if you increase the flow rate you are increasing the heat in the fluid which means more fluid changes more often. 

This is something I hav nt heard about. So heat makes the fluid "go bad"?

Yep.   That is probably the biggest killer of closed system hydraulic/gear fluids.  (transmissions, differentials transfer case  power steering.)   The high temperatures break the molecular chains in the fluids.  The higher the temperature the faster the degredation. 

Here is a quick chart.  Not far off of reality.

 

This is pretty much the same for most hydraulic oils (the oils in our differentials, are a bit better but they are much higher initial viscosity.)

19 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

This is something I hav nt heard about. So heat makes the fluid "go bad"?

 

Yeah, heat. Most people don't know they are supposed to change power steering fluid every 30k miles. That system do not have any filters so it important to change the fluid at 30k miles. So I monitor my fluid for color as the color changes it gets a full system flush and reloaded. I'm getting due to another power steering flush. Maybe that way my power steering pump is still going after 334k miles and never failed yet. Not to mention the power steering gear box and hyroboost are still functioning properly I've only got one minor leak at the input shaft of the steering box. 

 

Again this is another reason for NOT putting bigger tires on. The larger tires require more pressure in the steering box to turn the tires in a turn so the fluid temperature increases. Again people don't change the PS fluid often enough and presto, whole nightmare of power steering hydraulics problems.

8 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Yeah, heat. Most people don't know they are supposed to change power steering fluid every 30k miles. That system do not have any filters so it important to change the fluid at 30k miles. So I monitor my fluid for color as the color changes it gets a full system flush and reloaded. I'm getting due to another power steering flush. Maybe that way my power steering pump is still going after 334k miles and never failed yet. Not to mention the power steering gear box and hyroboost are still functioning properly I've only got one minor leak at the input shaft of the steering box. 

 

Again this is another reason for NOT putting bigger tires on. The larger tires require more pressure in the steering box to turn the tires in a turn so the fluid temperature increases. Again people don't change the PS fluid often enough and presto, whole nightmare of power steering hydraulics problems.

If you change PS fluid at 30k without a filter, would you extend that interval with a filter?

1 hour ago, Sycostang67 said:

If you change PS fluid at 30k without a filter, would you extend that interval with a filter?

No. Because still the heat is breaking down the fluid. Not to mention if you have a filter and in plugs up are you willing to lose steering and braking control because you trying to extend a fluid change interval? Not I... I'd rather change it every 30k miles. 

This is interesting. I guess we learn something new every day right? Is this the same with engine oil to?

23 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

Is this the same with engine oil to?

 

Think about it the service interval is 7,500 miles of engine oil. Power Steering fluid is 30,000 miles.

2 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Think about it the service interval is 7,500 miles of engine oil. Power Steering fluid is 30,000 miles.

I must of got to bed to late last night! Lol 

I know that feeling. 

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I know that feeling. 

Don't we all?