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Hey Gang, 

 

I've managed to get Thor running for the first time in 2 years. I opted for a stock fuel pump for right now since I'm missing parts yet for the AirDog 150 fuel system I've got I'm looking for a bracket for the pump. I have good positive pressure for the CP3 injection pump. I need to find out what the misfire and studdering are about. Cold start it's a bit long cranking not bad. Once it starts it runs rough and smokes white. I've got a set of @dieselautopower +50 HP injectors installed and had them sent back to DAP and found one injector had an issue and was repaired and sent back. Then I ordered a set of o-rings and replaced all o-rings on injectors and cross-over tubes.

 

Once warmed up all roughness is gone. It runs good and strong for what it is. I can even do the oil cap test and the cap does not even move. I'm trying to figure out the cold idle roughness and warm up smoke them once warm it drives and runs great. Even yesterday I drove to town and got 50 dollars of fresh diesel fuel to make sure its got enough cetane and pour point depressants. Currently 39*F here. Last problem in this category is the grid heater light came on yesterday and dinged 10 times signaling its high flow rates of the CP3.  It idles at about 7,9xx PSI of fuel rail. At 1,500 RPM its pumping up to 11,8xx roughly and appears the fuel rail is building good pressure. 

 

With Thor being my project I plan on writing articles as I get things figured out. So anyone give me a hand on this? Monday I'm going to put insurance and registration on Thor and he's going to become my daily runner. Why? Beast finally needs shop time and the rear main seal is leaking. Thor becomes the primary rig for now while I gather supplies for Beast and get my help here to remove the transmission and transfer case so we can access the rear main seal.

 

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Thor is also going to lose the heavy flat bed and front bumper soon. I'm going back to the lighter factory box and tailgate then factory bumpers and ditch close to a full ton of steel. Thor is fat at 9,300 pounds even empty.

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  • Tractorman
    Tractorman

    Interesting - not what I was expecting.  I was expecting to see rail pressure below 4500 psi while cranking during the hard start.  That would have made sense as the ECM would not have turned on the i

  • Tractorman
    Tractorman

    It is possible.  I have worked on a few common rail Dodge Cummins engines.  What I have found is that it can be very difficult to troubleshoot this fuel system, even with the use of the right diagnost

  • Doubletrouble
    Doubletrouble

    That should eliminate it from drawing in any air then.

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This is not exactly true. It the fact the Cummins released all ECM control to Mopar / FCA. Your dealers are only focused on sending people to their dealer. What about myself a mechanic looking for technical information about repairing say vehicle? Nope! This is the part that is screwed up is the fact I'm a LLC business and hired by my client or my own vehicle in my shop I should not be forced into the dealer.

I did learn that Feb 2012 there was a update to Thor's firmware at some point in the past that added the grid heater light and error codes to the ECM. If you are looking for the error codes in the 2006 FSM it will not exist being that information was released in Feb. 2012.

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We have a W or Win today. The injectors came back from @dieselautopower and were test out as a set again. I'll post up the flow rate report when I get back to the shop to grab the paper, which is a bit torn up. I'll post the flow rates. I install exactly to spec on everything for torque and process. Fired up smoked a bit of white, but very shortly cleared up and ran smooth. Yup, Diesel Auto Power did find 2 injectors with issues and been repaired again. Mark and I got the tail lights rigged up on the tail of the frame and my license plate. I took off to town for a bit of joy ride. Thor ran great. Idle is exactly 800 RPM and the fuel rail pressure settles at about 800 PSI swing from open to close with injectors. No grid heater light. No dinging bell. Easy start and been consistent. My trip to town I visited two friends with Thor and then stopped by the grocery store for a jug of milk. Each stop very easy starting and no smoke at all.

Now with the bed and that huge front bumper off this truck is quick. It can climb to 80 MPH very easy without the extra 2,800 pounds of steel flat bed and bumper off. Even the Fuel Mileage rose today for the first time being its on it way up towards high 16 MPH which it never done much better than 13 to 14 MPG. Yes the over sized injectors foul the trip the computer so its off by about -2 MPG roughly.

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The injector issue is over. I'm currently working on adding the articles to the website and getting error codes and even the TSB article posted up for others. As I went out today on a cold start and turn the key over and waited for the grid heater light and then crank Thor over. Fast and clean start up. Very light blue smoke noticed and settles pre quick after a couple a heating strokes on the burning fuel.

P1222 Error code

https://mopar1973man.com/cummins/articles.html/3rd-generation/61_engine_61_61/95_obdii-error-codes/p1222-leak-detection-during-motoring-r750/?&do=getNewComment&d=4&id=750

P1223 Error Code

https://mopar1973man.com/cummins/articles.html/3rd-generation/61_engine_61_61/95_obdii-error-codes/p1223-leak-detection-based-on-quantity-balance-r749/?&do=getNewComment&d=4&id=749

TSB article

https://mopar1973man.com/cummins/articles.html/3rd-generation/tsb-articles/tsb-18-006-12-diagnostic-enhancements-for-fuel-system-r751/?&do=getNewComment&d=4&id=751

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We are privately owned, with access to a professional Diesel Mechanic, who can provide additional support for Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel vehicles. Many detailed information is FREE and available to read. However, in order to interact directly with our Diesel Mechanic, Michael, by phone, via zoom, or as the web-based option, Subscription Plans are offered that will enable these and other features.  Go to the Subscription Page and Select a desired plan. At any time you wish to cancel the Subscription, click Subscription Page, select the 'Cancel' button, and it will be canceled. For your convenience, all subscriptions are on auto-renewal.