Ok, so I got rid of my 24V with headaches, and apparently picked up a 12V with someone else's headaches.. So, out of the frying pan, into the fire.I've been working out some kinks on this '97. I test drove it last friday, and from what I recall, it seemed to be fine.. Unless I didn't notice it (my fault for lack of due-diligence.)At any rate, the issue (for this thread) is the transmission.Story goes: 2 owners ago, dude bought a Jasper trans, installed it, killed it, warrantied it, killed that one, warrantied it, killed it, then Jasper said "this is your last one."so he pulled the 5spd from this '97, installed the Jasper auto in it, and stuck the 5 speed into the truck that he was using to kill transmissions.However, he did a ____-poor job, and sold it to last owner, who killed the poorly/improperly incomplete install in short order. So he took it to a diesel trans guy in MD, who rebuilt the Jasper trans using triple disc TC, red clutches, kevlar bands, HD valve body, etc. (parts from HTS Diesel).Installed a PCM (to replace a non-existant one) and rewired everything, so to speak, or so the story goes.Fast forward to me.. ( I don't need any "I told you so" type stuff, because I know. Believe me, I know.. One word: Wife. )I drove it home last friday, and all seemed well, although I did notice it seemed to rev a little higher to get it moving.. Granted, I'm new to autos, as my '01 was a manual, and the '96 before that, was manual, so I'm somewhat rusty on how they perform/react. Thought maybe the TC had a little higher stall.Last night, my 7 y.o. daughter wanted to ride around the block in the new dually.. Wish granted. That's when I noticed that something wasn't quite right... No low/1st gear engagement. Neither with shifter in D, or if I manually drop it to L (1), nothing, nada.. it seems to stay in 2nd gear or so.. I will add that if in D, at a stop, let off the brake and the truck starts to creep forward.. give a little throttle and drop it into 2nd, it feels to almost 'drop' a gear, as the forward progress seems to be a more positive engagement, but still no 1st. Driving 30mph, slow prepare for a stop sign, drop lever to 2, it downshifts.. drop to 1 from like 10mph, no gear change/drop occurs.. it stays in 2nd..TC lockup and such works, and with the 4.10s, 60-65mph yeilds about 1900-2000rpm.The Coolant Temp Sensor circuit is fubar somewhere, as is the tach in the I/C. The tach does read through the scan gauge, however, so the Crank Position Sensor seems to be operational.I was told this trans has a 3/36 warranty, but getting that info is proving to be a tad on the tough side..Trans looks fresh, complete with gray paint, Jasper stickers, etc., so it was apparently rebuilt in the Jasper case.Help. I need to troubleshoot this as inexpensively as I can, for obvious reasons.

So I got the 1k resistor in. Now no OD at all. And trans temp light is on.. WTF. LolSent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

So I got the 1k resistor in. Now no OD at all. And trans temp light is on.. WTF. Lol Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Really!! You sure like screwing up every suggestion I come up with! Just out of curiosity, did you check the voltage?

So thats where you've gone wrong Rick!

Really!! You sure like screwing up every suggestion I come up with! Just out of curiosity, did you check the voltage?

I've got a way of doing that LOL I have not, it's dark now, so it'll have to wait.

So thats where you've gone wrong Rick!

what, listening to Tom? heheh Tom spent a good hour on the horn with me discussing this stupid transmission and its nine billion gazzillion issues.. He's a great sound-board

Thanks, Rick, but...um.... Maybe you shouldn't listen to STRANGERS???

No, a 47RH was used in the '94 and '95 trucks. My early '96 is the first year with the RE trans.

Don't know why I thought the 47RE came along with the 98.5 24V. My DOH moment I guess.

It's hell gettin' old, ain't it?

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So I got an oe OD button to install. The dash harness has the pigtail for it already, so it's plug and play. Button works the OD fine but the light on the button (od off) never goes out. Only when I turn the headlights on, will the light go out, but doesn't cycle the light as you press the button on/off.. weird.

So I got a chance to look into this, this evening, as well.. The harness plug has 5 wires, 6 wires; two are in the same pin.

Unplugged the switch, and it has 4 pins. testing the harness, side. I found that 4 of the 5 wires function as intended, as does the switch. The one wire from the PCM that trips the OD light on/off is at constant ground, but it shouldn't be. That's why the light stays on. Also, wire positions 4 & 5 were backwards in the plug, so I swapped those pins around, but it still keeps the light on the switch.

Here ya go Rick!! http://duluth.craigslist.org/pts/3841259060.html

Here ya go Rick!! http://duluth.craigslist.org/pts/3841259060.html

Hmmm... now where did I bury that money can...

Hmmm... now where did I bury that money can...

Well when you find it...

Haha !!Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Tom,

For some reason, work blocks your site threads:

Your request http://www.dieseltrucksite.com/showthread.php?t=887 was denied because of its content categorization: "Games"

At any rate, I called and spoke with Tim. (btw: he's no longer at that location/number) We spoke for about 30-40 minutes, and you're right; he is a straight-shooter. He's been building Dodge transmissions for 35yrs, and seems extremely knowledgeable.

Basically, here's the jest of the conversation:

"You're chasing a tail you'll likely never catch, Rick. The issue lies in that the 47RE is a modified 47RH. The RH is full hydraulic with only the TCC being electrical. The RE has electronics handling the hydraulic governor's job, and the trans (as a whole) still thinks it's fully hydraulic, by function.

However, it isn't, obviously. From '96-'98, there are 5 different versions of the 47RE and PCM combos. Unless you have a complete donor automatic truck, you'll likely never get the correctly matching parts, and we're talking tenths of volts in variance. You can get an aftermarket controller, but you're still only at about 90% functional. Your 12mpg is also based primarily on the RE's issues. You could do a Ford 4L100 conversion (which is an awesome trans) but you're looking at a 8-10K$ conversion; it's hardly economical.

Your options seem to stand as this.. Box it up and sell the truck, buy an auto or manual truck, or convert it back to 5 speed.

Well, crap...

Tom,

For some reason, work blocks your site threads

Well, geez, that sucks. Now I need to figure that one out!

At any rate, I called and spoke with Tim. (btw: he's no longer at that location/number) We spoke for about 30-40 minutes, and you're right; he is a straight-shooter. He's been building Dodge transmissions for 35yrs, and seems extremely knowledgeable.

I am glad that you were able to get ahold of him. You should PM me his contact info (just in case!!). Anyhow, I guess now that you know exactly what is going on the work begins..... However, the 47RE SHOULD sell pretty quickly......

Rogan I've been following the thread and you've had a lot of good help, so here's what I have, A LOUD cyclic banging noise coming from the tranny. History, 47re rebuilt @ 120k with upgrade to a tow hall pkg. Truck has 190k. Trans fluid flushed every 30K. The noise just started, came off a 12hr pull, and noticed @ a stop the loud noise coming up through the floor board. Really bad @ idle but goes away @ higher RPMs???? Thx Dave

Rogan I've been following the thread and you've had a lot of good help, so here's what I have, A LOUD cyclic banging noise coming from the tranny. History, 47re rebuilt @ 120k with upgrade to a tow hall pkg. Truck has 190k. Trans fluid flushed every 30K. The noise just started, came off a 12hr pull, and noticed @ a stop the loud noise coming up through the floor board. Really bad @ idle but goes away @ higher RPMs???? Thx Dave

That sounds very much like the nuts on the convertor came loose or the flex plate is cracked. Pull the cover on the front of the bell housing and check the nuts first but check real close to see if there are any cracks.

So jere I sit, side of road, trailer in tow.. trans wont stay in OD for more than 10m. With 4.10 gears, 48mph in 3rd is about 2500rpm. Trans temp 165, coolant 190, no codes.. it kicks out of od, turns the "od off" button's light on, and that's it. I have to pull over, turn truck off and sit about 10min .. then itay/may not turn back on. Tow weight is about 5000lb..Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Dam Rick, you just can't catch a break. How far from home?

Dam Rick, you just can't catch a break. How far from home?

I was about 60mi out. I only had to do that 2 more times.. Im so over this $#@#& auto trans... Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

I bet it's gotta be frustrating. I've put an ad out on Craigslist a few times looking to do a swap with a manual trans truck just for the heck of it. I've had a few bites but nothing I was willing to seal the deal on. They were either really high mileage units, the one guy lost 2 gears and needed a clutch. It would be different if my trans needed work or even if it was stock I may have considered it, but I've got a solid unit and not willing to trade for something that I have to sink money into. It might be worth a shot for you to try though, it can't hurt. Especially if you advertise for an RH trans.