SLEDWRECKER

Cost is gonna be different for everybody. Depends on how you obtain your parts mainly. I bought a complete wrecked 02 Dodge 4wd w/NV5600 for $4,000, then I bought a SB DD clutch w/hydraulics for $1300. I pretty much got everything else I needed from the wreck, With the exception of the rear drive line, mine is a swb & the 02 was a LWB. I also got the Dana80 rear with limited slip and disc brakes and also used the front axle as it didn't have the CAD. I still have the motor from the wreck and I was able to sell quite a few parts to help finance it. I think buying a complete wreck is your cheapest route but it just takes a little time.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe that 35 psi is real critical to a stock head gasket with the motor shut off, isn't a stock cummins gonna make well over 100 psi compression? I think a tired 350 chev will do that. I believe that over 35 psi of boost will translate into maybe a couple hundered with compression stroke?...... I think:shrug:

I put a front axle out of a 02 in my 98.5 and i used the complete tie rod off the 98.5 axle on the 02.

The nuts come with them but you do have to get the reinforcement plates. IDK why they don't come with them but they don't. I got the kool vue power heated towing mirrors and I had a oem non power heated tow mirror and I laid them side by side and they look exactly the same. I've only ran them for about 1,000 miles but I'm very happy with them. Can't say the same for discountautomirrors company though, they are a bunch of idiots.

Make sure the key is on top (12 O'Clock) So it don't fall out, you will need a puller to pop the gear loose, there are no timing issues to worry about as the gear can't go anywhere when you pull the pump. Other than that it's pretty easy. If you have any questions just ask.

Had to swap the whole case, Got to drive it today and hooooolllllllllllyyyyyyyy CHIT! Get in, sit down, buckle up & oh boy. 1st smoke job this morning was my lovely wife, getting on I15 to come to work and she has a 06 Nissan Maxima, Thinks she's pretty bad ___ in that ricer, well I kicked the juice up on 6 and rolled into it maybe a little harder than I should have and just like magic she wasn't back there no more, bout 5 seconds later she comes threw the smoke screen almost in the median and like immediately the cell ph is ringing, Yep it was her (not happy), She tells me I need to get that thing fixed, I said it is fixed! This is what it's supposed to do, I told her I think I need to get a bigger turbo on top, she says I don't think so. Anyway it's running good now, hope it stays together for awhile.

Did that fix it?

finished swapping the front cas/cover and cam gear last night, fired it up and whew what a relief problem solved. Tach works like it's supposed to, just need to clear the codes and go for a ride. Thanks again for everyone's help.

Just one of the perks of owning a Dodge:thumb1:

I discovered a bad LP once when I changed my filter and it wouldnt prime up, finally removed the line and bumped the starter, pump ran fine but not a single drop of fuel. I have no idea how long because I didn't have a gauge but I ended up trading trucks and that VP is still running today. At least another 40,000 mi., You just never know when.

Looking for torque specs for front case to block bolts useing cummins gasket? And also front cover to case bolts useing gray right stuff? Thanks

Yes you'll get that with the fan blowing it around, looks like it's coming from the seal but it's actually just blowing up there. Tighten the fitting and spray it with some carb cleaner then drive it a few days.

Make sure it's not leaking off your oil return fitting, I've had that happen

Clutch is the 1 thing I did do right. SB DD3600. I hope this is the last thing. My patience ran out about 2 months ago. I've been running on pure pissed off since then. Hopefullt this week. On a side note what is that gray sealant that they use on the case and cover? Anybody know? Looks like some good stuff.

Well yesterday wasn't such a good day but I guess it's been consistant with the way this whole f...n project has been going. Started out to change the cam gears, stripped the truck down and the 02 motor which is sitting on my shop floor, so much for keeping it complete, ended up part way through the day dropping 1 of the 10 mm bolts that bolt the fan pulley to the hub down inside the motor, my stupidity, when I took them off (& I have no idea why) I layed them on the plastic shroud thingy in front of the windshield and when I was working on getting the 1/2" wooden dowels down the push rod holes I bumped the cowling and about 4 of them landed on the top of the head, well unbeknownst to me 1 went down and sat on #4 intake cam follower, well when I dropped the dowel down that hole it kind of bounces and then I hear the bolt pack up & head south to the pan. Spent the next 2 hours with a magnet fishing it out, Thought I was gonna have to drop the pan, lucky me (so I thought), anyway as I am putting the cam back in after swapping the gears I did manage to drop trhe retainer and yep you guessed it lucky thing the oil pan was there to catch it. Long story short I did fish it back out in only about 20 min., Now I discover that the 3 bolts behind the cam gear need to be swapped too as the tone ring is hitting them. And while I am at it, I guess now would be a good time to make for sure the sensor is in the exact same location, right again (it's not) on the 01/02 it sits about a 1/4" closer to the center of the cam and it also sits in deeper (closer to the cam) So yep now I have to change the complete front cover as well. Sure wished I would have just did the fire rings & studs on the 02 motor to begin with and dropped it in. Thought I would save a days worth of work by not haveing to swap motors. Not to mention it would have been a lot easier doing the head on the shop floor rather than in the truck. Anyway for everyone that is following my problem don't ever try to swap a 98.5-00 motor into a 01-02 truck or vice versa, they are NOT the same, you have to swap the whole front of the motor too. I guess if you know this ahead of time maybe it's not so bad, it's just that everything I do on this truck leads to swapping something else, what's next I ask?

Thanks for that post guesswho, I havent swapped it yet but in light of this info I now am convinced the cam gear is the problem, I did not realize they were cut with a tone ring on the 01/02 but only a hole for reference on the 98.5-00, Makes total sense now. You are the bomb, I was about to jump ship on this problem altogether, Thanks!

So if I read that right the 02 has notches cut in the gear for the sensor to read, and the 98.5 just has a hole in it? That could be the problem! Looks like I may have to swap the gear? Anybody else on board with this? BTW I tried both CMP sensors from the 98.5 and the 02 and no joy, they we're the same P.N. but I don't know what it was.

This I understand, but the thing is it's not being used anymore as I have all the wiring/pcm & ecm from the 02 in it now. So it is essentially an 02.

Update, I put the SO pump back on, runs good again. Disconnected the juice and no joy, did all the steps on your previous post for troubleshooting, everything seems good, still no joy. As I was still befugled why the edge displays the RPM so I started it with the cam sensor totally disconnected and guess what the juice still reads accurate rpm:omg: So I go 1 step further and pull the belt off thinking it may read from the alternator, nope still works, so at this junctior I have to assume the edge reads rpm from the VP? as that was the only thing possible left? I also noticed the cluster tach actually worked for about 1-2 seconds when I started it with the cam sensor unplugged, where as it usually works for about 7 seconds.

I forgot to mention it is also making a distinct buzzing sound kind of like when you put a card in the spokes of your bike and ride it about 75 mph?

I will try pulling the juice (good idea), New prob, Coming home from work yesterday I had to drive about 5 miles out on a ranch road, rough and slow idling along, after about 15 minutes I start getting the (lope) almost steady, I will describe it as the lope you get from the .093 tubes which I have but have never really had the lope other than on take off, so when I discovered it I put the clutch in and rev it up and get blue smoke (a lot of it) and a bad miss, I only notice the miss when I try to rev it up, anyway I get back to the highway and once I can get after it then it seems to clean up and ran great about another 35 miles until I get home. Pull in my yard and at idle I kick it up immediately and I have the same problem again. I don't know if the HO pump that I put in the night before is **** up or whats going on now so I went ahead and swapped the SO pump back in last night. I just need to bleed the air out tonight and fire it and will see what happens. I'm getting pretty good at changing the VP pump. About 2 hours last night and completely done except bleeding air out. Think I should try for nascar?

Would the edge still read the rpm's if the cam was walking away from the sensor? This all just started happening when I did all this work too. coincidental?

Wow, Did I mention I am just a dumb truck and heavy equipment salesman? I think maybe I need to make a trip to New Meadows, Haven't been through there since last summer over our 4th of July vacation when we went to Nampa to visit friends. Thanks for the info Moparman but could you give it to me in redneck terms? I don't guess I have the proper scan tools to do most of this stuff. I did all the rest of the work on my truck by myself along with some forum help but this computer stuff is over my head. I did check voltage at the plug going to the cam sensor and had 4.97 volts with the truck off and key on. That's about the end of my capabilities. Still confused:cookoo:

P0341 is the code I am getting. As far as the MAP goes I swapped it from the 02 also then consequently I had to get the right harness and adapter from edge for the juice. I have ran the cluster through the diagnostic test and get no errors, I even tried the cluster from the 98.5 and same thing with the tach, although there we're other problems when I hooked that cluster up like the high beam indicator was on all the time, but the tach prob was the same. I've been driving it for about 700 mi. now and every thing else works like it should, even the cruise. The tach on the edge seems to be dead accurate. Thanks for the help.

Older had both, the 02 only has cam sensor