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Rogan

Steering box brace

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So I ordered a steering box brace from Spohn Performance. It arrived a couple days later, and I will say, seems to be a pretty class A piece.Well, it won't fit. sorta. It's the right part, and is made properly. HOWEVER, I also run a plow in the winter. The truck-side bracketry (spreader bar, torque arms, etc.) are all kinds of interfering with the installation of the new bracket... I'll investigate more this evening, and see if I can slightly 'mod' something to gain the clearance I need..Otherwise, the new steering brace will be up for sale... :doh:

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I did the same thing about a month ago. I called the manuafacturer and told them that what happened. They were very nice and offered my money back but I kept it thinking that I may modify it later to fit. If any truck needed one of these things installed, it would be a truck with the added weight of a plow.One would think that the company that sells these things would print a warning regarding plow equipped trucks.

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Ok, update. I got the thing installed Sunday. I had to trim a little off of the snow plow brackets, but I don't feel it will be structurally degrading for the plow assembly. I also had to shim the spindle nut (pitman arm retainer nut) ~ 1/4" out, to compensate for the plow mount thickness. This was done by using the OE lock-washer in addition to the new washer. This still leaves plenty of thread for the locator nut on the steering box output shaft (pictures will follow, soon.)I also removed the swaybar in the front, as the end links were gassed and needed replacing.First Impressions: Holy ____! The truck steers and rides 10 times better. It actually steers sooo much better than before. Bear in mind the output shaft on my steering box would move laterally a little, and required a tad more steering input than normally needed. It's all gone, now. I have to say that this is the 2nd biggest improvement, behind the Edge Juice w/Attitude, that I've done to the truck.The brace, coupled with the sway bar removal and new L/F ball joints, has made it so much more enjoyable to drive.

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Are you saying that you removed the sway bar and aren't going to put it back on?

Rogan, I was wondering if taking the sway bar off was okay to do, and what the effects are on the drivability.

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Ok, update. I got the thing installed Sunday. I had to trim a little off of the snow plow brackets, but I don't feel it will be structurally degrading for the plow assembly. I also had to shim the spindle nut (pitman arm retainer nut) ~ 1/4" out, to compensate for the plow mount thickness. This was done by using the OE lock-washer in addition to the new washer. This still leaves plenty of thread for the locator nut on the steering box output shaft (pictures will follow, soon.) I also removed the swaybar in the front, as the end links were gassed and needed replacing. First Impressions: Holy ____! The truck steers and rides 10 times better. It actually steers sooo much better than before. Bear in mind the output shaft on my steering box would move laterally a little, and required a tad more steering input than normally needed. It's all gone, now. I have to say that this is the 2nd biggest improvement, behind the Edge Juice w/Attitude, that I've done to the truck. The brace, coupled with the sway bar removal and new L/F ball joints, has made it so much more enjoyable to drive.

i am curious about that swaybar removal just like RJC2 is.

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http://www.spohn.net/shop/1994-1999-Dodge-Ram-4x4/Steering-Box-Stabilizer-Brace-1994-2002-Dodge-Ram-4x4-1500-2500-3500.html ? I had heard these are really worth the money Direct fit on stock truck without snowplow ?

That's the one. You can order it in red or black. I got mine in red, because I didn't state which, so that's what they sent me. It is a direct bolt-on w/o a plow. My bearing assembly was pressed in crooked, so I had to realign the bearing within the housing (no big deal.) WELL WORTH the money.

Rogan, I was wondering if taking the sway bar off was okay to do, and what the effects are on the drivability.

i am curious about that swaybar removal just like RJC2 is.

Drivability (a week, now) seems really unaffected. It actually feels a little smoother in ride quality. However, I haven't pulled the trailer yet. I will this weekend, and update you all on the drivability. I ran my Jeep Cherokee with 35s and 10" lift with removed sway bars, with no ill effects.

It's apple harvest time in Winchester Va. He may be busy.:ahhh:

that, it is :) But I stay busy with two jobs, anyway. I'll be glad when it slows down a bit.

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I have installed every steering mod there is on my 02 and the best one of all was going to a 3.3 turn steering gear. Hands down the one steering mod that should be made for improved steering on every 2nd gen Dodge period.:2cents::thumb1:

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id like to try a 3.3 but to many other things in line ahead of that. mines pretty good right now except for straight line down the highway. to many corrections on some roads to stay straight. it is worse with anew set of tires.

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I have installed every steering mod there is on my 02 and the best one of all was going to a 3.3 turn steering gear. Hands down the one steering mod that should be made for improved steering on every 2nd gen Dodge period.:2cents::thumb1:

I plan to do that, as well.. Just won't happen this year.. :(

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As long as the swaybar and steering box locations are the same between the two, I don't see why it couldn't be used for a 2WD as well.:shrug:

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Is the steering box brace mainly for 4x4's? Dave

i always thought the 4X4's were the ones with the problem. do te 2wd have it also?

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The manufacturers have them for both 2wd and 4wd. It appears that there is a little difference in the way they are made from looking at them. The steering weakness would be the same with either version. The 4wd has a bit more weight on the front end so that could have an effect.

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Nice, the things we learn on this site!

Thanks,

Dave

--- Update to the previous post...

i always thought the 4X4's were the ones with the problem. do te 2wd have it also?

I don't really know, that was sorta my question.

Since I put all 4 new ball joints & had the front end aligned, it's much better.

Dave

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Anyone know how to tell if you would be better off withA) steering brace B) steering box C) new links and tie rods ? How to tell if you steering box is loose ... I got under truck and pulling on it felt tight but my steering is loose .... No play in steering shaft column tho ... Just loose when steering

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Anyone know how to tell if you would be better off with A) steering brace B) steering box C) new links and tie rods ? How to tell if you steering box is loose ... I got under truck and pulling on it felt tight but my steering is loose .... No play in steering shaft column tho ... Just loose when steering

:smart: Good questions John!

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i put the steering brace on mine first and it did help some. but i think my steering was already pretty far gone. the next time i did anything i just replaced all of it so i dont know what helped the most nor exactly how to tell which parts do the most good. at 22ok i figured they all had to be pretty worn.it is a good quetion.

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got to admit it sounds good. little to sunny out here to see the pics good. i will have to look it over this evening at the rv. for $300 you probably cant go wrong. so why dont you buy one and put it on. then we'll know for sure how good it is.

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got to admit it sounds good. little to sunny out here to see the pics good. i will have to look it over this evening at the rv. for $300 you probably cant go wrong. so why dont you buy one and put it on. then we'll know for sure how good it is.

yeah - honestly thats what I am thinking. This and the steering brace for $400 shipped.

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