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    Alternator and PCM protection

    What I'm going to describe is a rare event. This is possible with any alternator stock ND or Bosch or even the aftermarket alternators that are bigger amperage output. In a nutshell, at any point, the blue field lead happens to short to ground the entire short is routed back through the PCM. Since the PCM is protected by a shared fuse of 20 amps this means the circuit board fails during these events. There have been two cases of this which is @pepsi71ocean and myself with the same failure. The only difference is mine failed so badly that it burned a hole through the PCM circuit board making the PCM unrepairable. I was forced to replace the PCM completely. 

    Diagnostics

    You want to start the engine and check the blue for +12V. This +12V power should be present with the engine running. It's tested by using a DVM or test light. If power is not present then the PCM is damaged. The green wire will show a good ground more than likely but this will not work is there is no +12V to the field. This is where you make use of the article for ECM /PCM rebuilders. Make sure to test the alternator and replace it as well.

    The Modification

    This is based on the W-T ground wire mod. Being the field lead is powered from the PCM and the PCM, ECM and VP44 all share the same 20 amp fuse in slot G of the PDC. This fuse is too large to protect the PCM from a field wire short. This means you would have to purchase a fuse holder and solder in a fuse holder on the blue wire. With the PCM connectors removed from the PCM look at the connector towards the fender, this is connector C3. Pin 25 is the blue wire you can ohm test from end to end to be sure the wire is not broken. Then ohm between the blue wire and ground to verify its not shorted to ground still. Now take the tape near the loom and unwind it. This will give you about another 1 inch of wire. About 2 inches from the loom cut the blue wire. This should give you like 6 inches from the plug end and then a kind of stubby 2-inch wire on the loom end. Now solder in the fuse holder and use shrink tubing over your solder joints. 

     

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    With a bit of neat folding of the wire you should be able to loom the fuse holder into the loom again.

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    I know that @IBMobile did the load testing of the field lead and suggests a 7.5 amp fuse. I'm going to do the testing with a 5 amp fuse. 

     

    As for protection of the alternator on the charge lead, I opted to purchase a resetable 150 amp breaker. I know the factory alternator fuse was 140 amps. I know that the alternator will not produce more than 135 amps of charging current. I know the breaker is not there for protection the alternator for excessive charge current. The breaker is there just in case there is a dead short on the diode pack. If the short was good enough it could light that 6 gauge cable on fire. So having an exact 140 amp breaker is not required. The other thing I was reading up on was the breakers tend to trip prematurely because of underhood temperatures. I wanted to be just that little bit bigger that it does not trip the breaker because the alternator is already at full current charging on a hot day like jump starting another vehicle. 

     

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    Fallout, External Regulator users

    As for all you as fallout from this problem you typically were doing the external voltage regulator because of the PCM failure. I'm going to suggest that you consider doing the PCM repair and doing this mod and getting away from the external voltage regulator. 

     

     

     

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    Pepper

       3 of 3 members found this review helpful 3 / 3 members

    amazing info!!

     

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    AKjeff

       2 of 2 members found this review helpful 2 / 2 members

    Thanks for this write up Mike, I added the fuse and circuit breaker to my alternator circuit while waiting for my rebuilt ECM to arrive.

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    Towrigdually

       2 of 2 members found this review helpful 2 / 2 members

    Straight forward and easy to follow, cheap and easy protection from down time and an unwanted bill. 

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    dave110

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    One day I'll get around to doing this. Nice to know this is here when that day comes.

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    Dieselfuture

       2 of 2 members found this review helpful 2 / 2 members

    Can't believe something this simple was overlooked by Dodge engineers. Great info as usual, thanks. 

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    Doubletrouble

      

     Great article, could be a real money saver! a little bit of time and a fuse holder is all that is needed to avoid tracking down a new pcm or waiting for one to be rebuilt.

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