Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
Changed the title for SEO reasons

Too, I never save those.  I'll post them sometime, but you can just highlight all columns the. Insert a line graph.

On ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2016 at 9:36 AM, Me78569 said:

Too, I never save those.  I'll post them sometime, but you can just highlight all columns the. Insert a line graph.

@Me78569 Try this tool  I created to populate the graphs automatically. the instructions are in the .zip file. let me know what you think, I am getting good results with it and its quick.

Quadzilla Data logging.zip

On 11/14/2016 at 4:25 PM, Dieselfuture said:

Did some harsh testing this weekend , still have the engine intact , but my boost sensor is reading 2psi minimum. is it just time for one ? or how can it go bad with you guys running 60psi or better, I hit 45-47 max which is a bit much for a stocker. I cleaned it but it doesn't change still reads 2psi, from there on it matches my mechanical guage.

 

Ok got my adapter from genos the other day, changed my map/boost sensor and quad still says I'm at 2psi, what else can cause this.

Ok guys, this is the first map I want to post. I am using @Me78569's DD tune with compound turbos,  boost limited to 39psi. This was my first pull with the kit, I was screwing around on a long road on the airport I work out of.

 

Edited November 21, 20168 yr by xxTJRocksxx

On 11/20/2016 at 10:46 AM, xxTJRocksxx said:

@Me78569 Try this tool  I created to populate the graphs automatically. the instructions are in the .zip file. let me know what you think, I am getting good results with it and its quick.

Quadzilla Data logging.zip

Cool setup.  @Carbur8tr might try to add this to your macro.

On 11/20/2016 at 11:56 AM, Dieselfuture said:

Ok got my adapter from genos the other day, changed my map/boost sensor and quad still says I'm at 2psi, what else can cause this.

let me think about this.  

 

Try flashing a old pre v2 flash and let me know if idle shows as 0

 

Edited January 26, 20178 yr by Me78569

22 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

Cool setup.  @Carbur8tr might try to add this to your macro.

let me think about this.  

 

Try flashing a old pre v2 flash and let me know if idle shows as 0

Made some changes, and created a "non importing version", that you just copy and paste your data into.

Quadzilla Data logging.zip

Quadzilla needs a data logger like the OBDlink App has. You don't have to import anything to excel or anything its all self-contained. The problem I've got is the limited time it logs data and the requirement to email myself where I don't have any cell service so I rather not bother fighting to get apps to export from one to another just to see logged data. If the data was saved directly to a file period I would be tickled. 

I export to FX explorer as a CSV.   

 

It's a little clumsy, but compared to the other vp44 data loggers ( there are none) it is great.

@Dieselfuture

 

 

 Been mulling over your 2 psi issue.

 

The quad reads boost from the ecm from 0-16psi.  If you are seeing 2 psi at idle that must mean that either your quad is flashed with an older flash that had issues or your ecm is reporting boost at idle for some reason.   

 

Try to reflash your quad with the flash in this sticky

 

https://mopar1973man.com/topic/12025-how-do-i-manually-install-the-quadzilla-driver-load-the-quadzilla-v2-tune-on-windows-10/

 

11 hours ago, Me78569 said:

I export to FX explorer as a CSV.   

 

It's a little clumsy, but compared to the other vp44 data loggers ( there are none) it is great.

@Dieselfuture

 

 

 Been mulling over your 2 psi issue.

 

The quad reads boost from the ecm from 0-16psi.  If you are seeing 2 psi at idle that must mean that either your quad is flashed with an older flash that had issues or your ecm is reporting boost at idle for some reason.   

 

Try to reflash your quad with the flash in this sticky

 

https://mopar1973man.com/topic/12025-how-do-i-manually-install-the-quadzilla-driver-load-the-quadzilla-v2-tune-on-windows-10/

 

Is this flash updated with your new wire tap update?

this 2psi thing started after some hard driving with new v2 flash (your first v2 flash available to public), I thought boost sensor was old and something happened to it. I'll try this new update and see. Thanks. 

The flash I posted has the wiretap stuff in it also.  

 

 

If it still reads 2 psi at idle we need to look into why your ECM is reporting boost as 2 psi at idle.  

Mine is the same reporting 1-2 PSI at idle.

Did that change recently?  

 

 

Both late and early trucks are reading boost via the canbus message so if idle is reading 1-2 then the ecm is reporting that.....unless I am calculating boost incorrectly from the ecm, IE cummins didn't follow the standard layed out by SAE.

@Carbur8tr  What is your truck reading for boost at idle?

 

 

Edited November 21, 20168 yr by Me78569

I can try my old 02 MAP sensor.

don't worry about it yet.  

Just flushed new tune on and still 2 psi, but sounds like I'm not the only one. Another thing is i wanted to reflash it again and it can't find module now. Tried restarting everything and no luck, keeps saying can't find module. 

@Dieselfuture  @mopar1973man 

 

I am assuming ambient temps are lower now than they were a month ago?

7 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

@Dieselfuture  @mopar1973man 

 

I am assuming ambient temps are lower now than they were a month ago?

yes,  but with me it just happened out of blue, it was at 0 I could of swore and then I got on it a few times and noticed that it would stay at 2psi even with the truck off.  

is did this "jump" without flashing the tune?  

6 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

is did this "jump" without flashing the tune?  

correct, maybe we found a way to reprogram the ECM

 

Edited November 21, 20168 yr by Dieselfuture

haha nope sorry it is a 1 way communication from the ecm.