Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
Changed the title for SEO reasons

40 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

You can't corrupt me too bad! I've still got a weak transmission 

 

You just built that thing... I thought it was good to go?

19 minutes ago, CSM said:

 

You just built that thing... I thought it was good to go?

I think the g56 can handle about 700 driven somewhat hard and probably 800 if driven nicely. The one in my truck has seen over 900 and has no issues. It all depends on how much torque is put through it! I'd like to get about 750hp since I don't drive things too hard. It'd be nice to turn it back down with AFC live to tow and DD though. 

16 minutes ago, TFaoro said:

 I'd like to get about 750hp since I don't drive things too hard.

 

 

31 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

 

 

Nick "floor it to see if it smokes!"

Me "Mmmmk"

Nick "Holy ship it's death wobbling!"

Me

 

But really, I drive like a grandpa unless I'm testing, around my brother, it taking people for a ride. Fuel gets expensive

you forgot "impress the lady" I know chicks dig death wobble.

 

 

At least I think scream = chicks dig it

Another bug,

 

ugh hate my life sometimes.   

 

Thankfully dodge decided to just report -40* if coolant goes over 204*f so the quad thinks it is very cold out and turns off fueling.....   working on a fix now, otherwise turning lvl to 0 will start fueling again.    

 

temp bug fix is posted in the tune section

1 hour ago, TFaoro said:

But really, I drive like a grandpa unless I'm testing, around my brother, it taking people for a ride. Fuel gets expensive

 

 

Only takes a few burst runs like that, showing off to totally kill my MPG for the tank. I do the same thing. I'm normally pretty mellow till I'm challenged, trying to show off the Quadzilla, etc.

 

Alright bug fix tune has been posted.  It resolves an issue that comes about if ECT goes above 204*.  Dodge was nice enough to wrap the temp around after 204* for some reason. 

 

It's in the download section.  I would suggest updating when you can. 

4 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Only takes a few burst runs like that, showing off to totally kill my MPG for the tank. I do the same thing. I'm normally pretty mellow till I'm challenged, trying to show off the Quadzilla, etc.

 

Hopefully I can retain some decent mileage in my truck. It seemed to like 21-22deg of timing for cruise, and that's what I plan to set the Ppump to. I'm sure it'll take some getting used to before my numbers come up where they're supposed to. 

I might have missed something when updating. My high idle use to kick off when warm-up temp was met. My warmup is set at 120 however my high idle isn't kicking off. Coolant is 167. I used the latest update that was posted. 

I'll check.

1 hour ago, JDHudsn said:

I might have missed something when updating. My high idle use to kick off when warm-up temp was met. My warmup is set at 120 however my high idle isn't kicking off. Coolant is 167. I used the latest update that was posted. 

Did the power bar change from green to red, but it still high idled?

1 hour ago, Me78569 said:

I'll check.

Did the power bar change from green to red, but it still high idled?

It was red because it was already past 120* (have the warmup set). Rpm went to 900 then jumped to 1200 at idle. I drove to the gym and let it sit. Now I restarted it and it didn't high idle (coolant was already 150*). Maybe it just did something funny right when it reconnected from the latest update? 

 

@JDHudsn  Well the bug finder award goes to you.  You actually dug up a bug from about a decade ago. Since the Quad was flash / unplugged from power it reverted back to lvl 0 as the last power level selected.  So when warmup disabled the quad stayed in lvl 0.

 

High idle is set to enable so long as lvl == 0.   I have no idea why old Quad did this, but effectively if you leave it on lvl 0 it will high idle until the end of time.  

 

Not my bug!

 

 

but i will fix it.

Edited March 14, 20178 yr by Me78569

11 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

 

@JDHudsn  Well the bug finder award goes to you.  You actually dug up a bug from about a decade ago. Since the Quad was flash / unplugged from power it reverted back to lvl 0 as the last power level selected.  So when warmup disabled the quad stayed in lvl 0.

 

High idle is set to enable so long as lvl == 0.   I have no idea why old Quad did this, but effectively if you leave it on lvl 0 it will high idle until the end of time.  

 

Not my bug!

 

 

but i will fix it.

I was definitely sweating bullets thinking I did something wrong when I flashed it haha. 

So lvl 0 + warmup mode = high idle?  Neat.  Learned something new tonight

 

Upon thinking through it, I am actually going to leave this the way it is.  It would be nice for guys to be able to turn it back to lvl 0 to get high idle regardless like we go with the mopar1973man high idle switch.  Prolonged 6 cyl mode is useful.

 

If you leave the tuner on lvl 2+ when you shutdown the high idle will only operate until warmup is reached, but if you turn the truck to lvl 0 it will high idle for you.  

9 minutes ago, trreed said:

So lvl 0 + warmup mode = high idle?  Neat.  Learned something new tonight

 

It is if you enable high idle, 

 

Settings > high idle delay in seconds and switch to on.

 

 

@JDHudsn  haha I wouldnt worry about messing it up due to a flash, I bet I have flashed mine nearly 500 times now

Edited March 14, 20178 yr by Me78569

Oh yeah...  Derp...

 

30 minutes ago, Me78569 said:

haha I wouldnt worry about messing it up due to a flash, I bet I have flashed mine nearly 500 times now

 

Oh that's definitely reassuring haha. I wasn't sure if my truck was getting ready for takeoff or not

 

Learned something new about how the high idle works. Now that you educated me having that option is nice??! 

 

 

Edited March 14, 20178 yr by JDHudsn

Well, another VP44 has received a kiss from Death today.... The P1691 code showed up, went away, and thankfully hasn't returned as of yet...

Coincidence that this happened a mere 8 days after @TFaoro's pump died? I think not!  Moral of the story: If you are around with Tyler's truck breaks, run! Otherwise the bad juju will make it through a tow strap and into your own truck... 

 

Now to wait for the inevitable death of my pump

h pump?? 

Bank account says no. :'(

 

Edited March 15, 20178 yr by trreed