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So I just got done replacing my vp44, after I was getting (hard start or so I thought I'm 50/50 with this I don't know if it was my starter and cables or actually a hard hot start) I got the new one in, checked all connections, made sure the key way is in the groove, and started putting everything back together. Got it started once to have the starter go out the next startup.... Put new starter in and all new cables, I finally get to test drive it. ( I also have a wire tap) so I went for a test run..... And to me it doesn't feel like it had the spunk like my old pump did. ( if that makes any sense)  I'm 100%  sure of this because I lost about 7 psi of boost.( with old I was getting 37 on high side, new one I'm only seeing 30-31)  I am double checking for boost leaks tomorrow on my exhaust side, my clean air side is good. So my question is, how the hell does a vp44 vary in that much of a power difference??? Is that even possible ???  I know the new one I put in has been/had something done because it doesn't have the clear gel like the other one does. 

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  • That's where mine came from is Industrial Injection thru Eric. I called industrial injection before I bought and they said they never would ever send out a rebuilt VP without a brand new PSG board.

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    Still not right... With so many dealers out there selling VP44's with new PSG units. Why would you pay for VP44 with a "used PSG"  that is even bit more more in price than a VP44 with "new PSG" for le

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    Electronics might not be calibrated to the mechanical part. Timing, fueling, etc. As I've shown the PSG isn't flashed till 3 hours of calibration and all test have passed. 

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Aint that something. I will be interested in how BC handles this.

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Ya I'm interested to see what he says, cause I am sending him the shitty one back, I'm not sending the good one back, but I am going to nail his *** to a board and hammer him with a lot of questions, makes me wonder if he does this on purpose so it doesn't have to come out of his pocket when he warranties these pumps, that's my biggest thought about all of this. It's crazy, I honestly never thought that there would be a difference between any of the 15x. I'm thinking what Mike said about the used PSG and maybe a bad flash!!?? Either way I'll keep y'all posted on this 

I almost wonder if the PSG was a "good" PSG from a core that he moved to the pump you got.  It would explain why half of the silicon is cut out.

 

Almost as if the psg was unsoldered from one pump and moved to another.

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Still not right... With so many dealers out there selling VP44's with new PSG units. Why would you pay for VP44 with a "used PSG"  that is even bit more more in price than a VP44 with "new PSG" for less. 

 

Kind of like the same game with suspension parts. Everyone buys Moog parts because of the name not knowing its nothing more that foreign made parts now. 

 

What I getting at you have to take it upon yourself to find the source manufacturing and research where its made and how it made any more. Like I know that Diesel Auto Power sell two different rebuilders of injection pump. It's either Midwest Injection or Industrial Injection. I know the Midwest has the lowest price but little bit troublesome when it comes to warranty claims. Where Industrial Injection is a bit more in price but warranty cliams seem to be smoother in handling. (Personal opinion).

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That's where mine came from is Industrial Injection thru Eric. I called industrial injection before I bought and they said they never would ever send out a rebuilt VP without a brand new PSG board.

 

I trust Erics' word the guy ain't greedy or nothin'. He's just a good person.

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On 8/20/2016 at 8:15 PM, Me78569 said:

I almost wonder if the PSG was a "good" PSG from a core that he moved to the pump you got.  It would explain why half of the silicon is cut out.

 

Almost as if the psg was unsoldered from one pump and moved to another.

but how would that be in power difference? I have done "some" reading on them, even if the pump had a new PSG..... what other things would effect it not having any power? did he not just flash it and then send it on its way? 

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Electronics might not be calibrated to the mechanical part. Timing, fueling, etc. As I've shown the PSG isn't flashed till 3 hours of calibration and all test have passed. 

Yea the Psg might be wrong for the vp44.  Just guesses here, I would be very curious to hear what blue chip says.

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Just a update, I have sent the crappy one back, since then i cant get ahold of him or any of his little minions. needless to say. im stayin clear of BCD. all though i will keep bugging him for a answer. one of these days. he has to talk!!

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