Hello guys I'm not sure if this has been discussed on this forum before or not. I am considering a steering upgrade for my 2000 Ram 2500. This thread is too help anyone out if they ever want to try this to. Id like to know if anyone else here has done this specific kit ill mention? The kit is from a 4th gen truck and was made specificly for upgrading third gens steering. SOmeone on Cummins Forum bought this kit for a second gen and found out that it was a awesome bolt on upgrade for second gen trucks to! Now I read that trucks with stock 16 inch wheels the stud on the end of the tie rods will hit the wheel so you have to grind off an eighth of an inch or so. I don't believe this works for 98 and 99 trucks but correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways the part # for the kit is #51122362af and that's a mopar part number. Hopefully I can try this upgrade soon but in the meantime id like to find out more about it and possibly create an article when I'm done to help others. I think you can get this kit straight from the dealer for around 350$ which is a very fair price if the upgrade is as good as mentioned. Everyone knows that our steering kind of sucks. I think that big tires and leveling kits make it worse too. This converts the steering to a t style instead of the factory y style steering. 

Edited February 8, 20187 yr by Marcus2000monster

Yes.

8 minutes ago, trreed said:

Yes.

What did you pay for your kit?

Couldn't tell you.  Bought it almost two years ago now.

3 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Thanks.

 

This knowledge came from the fact I lifted and put big tires on my old 1972 Dodge Powerwagon and end up destroying the front axle. I broke u-joints and tore up wheel bearing and busted 2 steering boxes. For what? Just to look cool. I end up running out of sources for parts to keep fixing the front axle and steering so I traded that train wreck for my 2002 Dodge and KNEW I would never make that mistake again. I didn't as you can see at nearly 333k miles and still got mostly OEM parts yet. 

That's why I put 2.5 ton axles from duce under my mud trucks, but still managed to brake axles untill I put some chrome Molly in there 

3 hours ago, Marcus2000monster said:

Lol what is the weight of a 285?

285/75/17 is what I got 56lb, my next set will probably be 265 but according to toyo they are 54lb so not sure there yet.

Edited February 8, 20187 yr by Dieselfuture

There you go. Stock 2nd Gen chrome steel wheels and 235's.

Not bad! 

2010 “T” style steering is worth it. I will be down sizing from 285 to 265 tires this spring too. Mainly because of my automatic and 3.55 gears.

1 hour ago, CTcummins24V said:

2010 “T” style steering is worth it. I will be down sizing from 285 to 265 tires this spring too. Mainly because of my automatic and 3.55 gears.

I have 4:10s and I wish I could reduce rpms. 

12 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Depends on the wheels. Most people I've seen about 100 pounds per wheel depends on the wheels. Just go to a tire shop and pick up a racing slick and tell me how much is weighs? Racing slices even for wide rear tires are typically 20-30 pound max! It about cutting rotational mass and adding as much traction. Tire weight does matter. 

 

http://hpwizard.com/rotational-inertia.html

Grab a NASCAR tire one day. I swear I could poke my finger thru one. Amazingly thin.

6 minutes ago, dripley said:

Grab a NASCAR tire one day. I swear I could poke my finger thru one. Amazingly thin.

LOL! What tires have you guys had good success with?

What brand of t steering are you considering. I see a synergy brand, moog and a few others. 

 

I have ave heard good things about Synergy [url=https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/-p-151581227.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAh_DTBRCTARIsABlT9MZJAAWDStFbCdXNTlTBqDZw63glJ7DuBTwaT8gilHE8za0UF7GARn0aAog4EALw_wcB

Edited February 9, 20187 yr by Red Rambler

2 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

LOL! What tires have you guys had good success with?

The best two I have run have been Micheline LTX I think, came oh the truck new, and the current ones, Cooper ATP's. Both about 65k and great service from them. The Michelines have gotten to pricey for me at near $1200 a set. The Coopers are running me about $900. No where near what @Mopar1973Man is paying for the ones he is using. MM how many miles do you think you will get?

12 minutes ago, Red Rambler said:

What brand of t steering are you considering. I see a synergy brand, moog and a few others. 

 

I have ave heard good things about Synergy [url=https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/-p-151581227.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAh_DTBRCTARIsABlT9MZJAAWDStFbCdXNTlTBqDZw63glJ7DuBTwaT8gilHE8za0UF7GARn0aAog4EALw_wcB

Its a mopar kit. Buy it from dealership or mopardirect.com. 

3 minutes ago, dripley said:

The best two I have run have been Micheline LTX I think, came oh the truck new, and the current ones, Cooper ATP's. Both about 65k and great service from them. The Michelines have gotten to pricey for me at near $1200 a set. The Coopers are running me about $900. No where near what @Mopar1973Man is paying for the ones he is using. MM how many miles do you think you will get?

Dad got 85k 4 sets in a row on BFG Rugged Trails... 

2 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

Dad got 85k 4 sets in a row on BFG Rugged Trails..

Never seen that high on my truck. I think I will break 70k on these though they have had a lot of non towing highway miles. Time will tell.

30 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

No where near what @Mopar1973Man is paying for the ones he is using. MM how many miles do you think you will get?

 

Last set I broke over 60k miles on the Hankook ATm this batch in the photo above is nearly 30k miles now. I've got to get into town in the near future and have them rebalanced starting to see the edge feathering a bit. I'm guessing about 80k most likely if I continue to do this 3 day a week trips to Ontario, OR for 250 miles per trip.

 

http://www.hankooktire.com/us/passenger-cars/hankook-dynapro-at-m-rf10.html

Edited February 9, 20187 yr by Mopar1973Man

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

Last set I broke over 60k miles on the Hankook ATm this batch in the photo above is nearly 30k miles now. I've got to get into town in the near future and have them rebalanced starting to see the edge feathering a bit. I'm guessing about 80k most likely if I continue to do this 3 day a week trips to Ontario, OR for 250 miles per trip.

 

http://www.hankooktire.com/us/passenger-cars/hankook-dynapro-at-m-rf10.html

You know I always thought that Hankook tires were a joke. Seems they have proven to be a pretty decent tire. A friend of mine just got 60k out of his... 

4 minutes ago, Marcus2000monster said:

You know I always thought that Hankook tires were a joke.

 

What a joke is Cooper STT's and Toyo M/T those are jokes. Extremely heavy, tire poor ice/snow traction. Then to top it off roughly a 2-3 MPG lost because of rotational mass is more and rolling resistance is high from the tread pattern. Top it really good is the price typically over $1,000 for tires nope not me... Never again...

Edited February 9, 20187 yr by Mopar1973Man

1 minute ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

What a joke is Cooper STT's and Toyo M/T those are jokes. Extremely heavy, tire poor ice/snow traction. Then to top it off roughly a 2-3 MPG lost because of rotational mass is more and rolling resistance is high from the tread pattern. Top it really good is the price typically over $1,000 for tires nope not me... Never again...

I think I'm going to try a set of Hankook Dyanpro 265/75/17 tires

Correction 265/70 R17 that is a correct size. Exactly the same to the 265/75 R16

Just now, Mopar1973Man said:

Correction 265/70 R17 that is a correct size. Exactly the same to the 265/75 R16

I have 16 inch wheels