I'm getting payed pretty good to build a dump truck. My truck runs prett toasty pulling grades when heavy. Empty wich it is 99% of the time fine.

Running smarty on 9 3 3 7x09 smoky doesnt matter where smarty is set..

Was thinking head studs turbo and 3peice bd manifold in one wack. 7x10 injectors later.

 

What gateless turbos are available?  I've looked alittle and see delete plates but no turbos built gateless.

My turbo hy35 is making a fluttering sound lately that's a new sound.  Might be rubbing the wheel.  

 

Or should I love with the higer temps and get some .320 injectors to possibly clean up smoke . Would my temps go up I'd bump up to the 7x10s

 

I'm not going to do a quad yet. Smarty is working well making very good power. I'd like to get the mechanical side first. I can't blame it entirely on the smoke. I've probly got 50k or more on these 7x09 sac injectors. 

 

I'll will do a hx40 vband and may fab a 5" down pipe. Been rding up parts to do the down pipe. Probably just by a hx40 pipe. My time lately is scarce to come by. Its spent burning up the freeway 

 

Thanks for the ideas on this

 

 

Edited September 5, 20195 yr by Evan

7 x .010's are the best injector for a Daily driven VP44 truck with 500 +- 50hpish goals.

they will get you 500 hp without cranking duration through the roof.  

Future

That hx35 sounds like fun

 

Mike

The temps you've posted seem inline with my hy35

I can imagine you have to pedal of grades. 

 

60 60 12

Would make a good comparison to 

62 65 14

I'm sure I'll emidatly love or hate it.

 

Me.

Yes I'm wondering if 62 68 12 the way to go. Lol your not helping. .

 

Turbo may get here today guess I'll find out soon enough. Maybe my hy35 is tired enough I'm not seeing its potential and itl be a night day improvement going to sxe even with the 14exhaust houseing..

 

Hoping this turbo isnt all top end. 

 

Stop second guessing yourself Evan it's going to run well. 

It will run fine.  

 

Good enough is good enough

Is good enough ever really good enough.

I've really been looking at parts to change the s300 turbo if I dont like the 14 exhaust 

Sh!t 

Getting another shot. 

Should I stick to 62 65 14 or go 62 68 12?

Edited September 12, 20195 yr by Evan

I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with that 62/65. Hang it on and try it out!

won't hurt to try it out.   

 

It will be a huge improvement over the hy35.  

 

Again good is good enough.

It's a 3rd gen turbo that got shipped to me.  Should I make it work. 

Researching clocking the turbo 180deg

 

I dunno I think just send this back. I waited a week already what's a couple more 

 

Lots of monkeying around to make the 3rd gen cold pipe work clocking and fabbing.  Part if me think cool I get to weld the other part says send it back and get the one that bolts on.

Edited September 12, 20195 yr by Evan

Send it back.  Now is the chance to get the other turbo if your not sure about this one.

I dont know what I'm sure about.

 

I do like that 3rd gen gets rid of bottle kneck on charge side

Hi,

The turbo is aftermarket, but the price is decent.

I am a bit late to the  thread. 62/65/14 will perform similar to a 62/68/12.

great for 125-150HP and turned up Adrenaline or comp. 

 

With custom tuning you can go with bigger injectors and reduced teh fuel stretch on the VP44 and have more control of how and when you want the injection event.  

 

SXE turbo will have some benefits as its genuine Borg Warner parts.

SXE gives you 360* thrust for better oiling and turbo life, Billet compressor wheel that will flow about 77-78 lbs/minute.

62 is more like 66-72 lbs/minute. 

 

 

 

 

If you want to run the turbo you have  ask them to swap compressor covers and send the 3rd gen cover back.  Check the turbine housing it may be a short actuator and 4.4" outlet.  If that is the case a full exchange would be better.

 

Thanks DAP

 

I'm at a bit if a loss right now on what to do. Thanks for confirming that the 62 65 14 should work well.

 

 

So I think I'm just going to order this 2g to 3g pipe and hx40 downpipe and Clock the turbo accordingly 

 

oops I did not check outlet doing that now.

 

Is this where the 4.4" measured ?

 

https://cppdiesel.com/sd-3-00-2g-intercooler-pipe-sd-pipe-3g-single-cummins/

Edited September 13, 20195 yr by Evan

23 hours ago, dieselautopower said:

Hi,

The turbo is aftermarket, but the price is decent.

I am a bit late to the  thread. 62/65/14 will perform similar to a 62/68/12.

great for 125-150HP and turned up Adrenaline or comp. 

 

With custom tuning you can go with bigger injectors and reduced teh fuel stretch on the VP44 and have more control of how and when you want the injection event.  

 

SXE turbo will have some benefits as its genuine Borg Warner parts.

SXE gives you 360* thrust for better oiling and turbo life, Billet compressor wheel that will flow about 77-78 lbs/minute.

62 is more like 66-72 lbs/minute. 

 

 

 

 

If you want to run the turbo you have  ask them to swap compressor covers and send the 3rd gen cover back.  Check the turbine housing it may be a short actuator and 4.4" outlet.  If that is the case a full exchange would be better.

 

Trying to get a tape on a hx40 downpipe or turbo.  Prooving hard to do. Smedding is not responding. 

 

I burned an inch on the id.

 

Thinking this is the 4.4" outlet.  I could have a 700 dollar paper weight . What trucks or turbos have the 4.4" outlet. I'd just have to get that downpipe or weld on adapter. 

I wont allow it to become a paper weight 

 

DAP

https://puredieselpower.com/dodge-products/turbos-and-accessories/accessories-2/downpipes-and-clamps/page-4/?items_per_page=-1#/product/19366

I found this. I think this is a he351 flange. What turbo do I have. Not lock of paper work came from smedding but they did send a beer coozy and smedding stickers.

 

I dont even know how to confirm that this turbo is a 62 65 14. 

 

What is short actuator.  Do I want to stay away from that?  It appears this turbo is everything that it's not supposed to be.

Edited September 13, 20195 yr by Evan

An exchange would be best.  Not much to gain by going to 3rd gen cover except spending money  unnecessarily.

 

Looks like it is the short actuator.  I dont remember the reason why fitment is more difficult.  It has been some time since that question has come up.  Anyone here remember?

Ok. I'll call them. Getting no response by email

I wanted a 4" down pipe any ways so figured I was only out the cost of your pipe to turbo 

 

thanks again your being aton more help than smedding 

 

smedding was helpful on the phone. Though I'm having a heck of a time emailing them photos of the turbo I recieved 

 

will be doing an exchange.  I'll stay with the 62 65 14 

Edited September 13, 20195 yr by Evan

Glad I could help.

I guess I'm going to do this in two parts. 

 

Seeming to be a very straight forward easy manifold swap.

 

I've got studs to replace all manifold bolts and turned exhaust nuts flanges down to clear bd manifold.

 

Didnt know if leaving the turbo in place would all clearance.  Theres plenty to get out all manifold bolts.

Well see if egt or anything change. I kinda doubt it.

 

Might be more noise under the hood.

Everything is the same 

 

Edited September 15, 20195 yr by Evan

Digging more into this 3rd gen turbo issue it appears the screw up is on my end.

 

I'm in touch with smedding through text now and will be sending this 3rd gen turbo back for the proper 2nd gen turbo.

 

Smedding is handling my screw up well and gave several options they were also willing to send parts to make the 3rd gen turbo bolt on but the short waste gate actuator puts a cabosh on that.

Looks like itl be a week to get this one back and another week to get the right one back to me. Grrr. Ohhhhwell my screw up.

 

Heres a finished pic of ex manifold.  I reused turbo gasket and oil outlet. No leaks.  I didnt want to use gaskets I bought for the new turbo.

 

Edited September 17, 20195 yr by Evan

No updates. Turbo is heading back to smedding. 

Still sticking to 62 65 14