Started my truck on site the other day to come home and within a minute there's a puddle of coolant on the floor, rad leaking on the drivers side crimped edge, luckily it stops as it gets warm so still able to use the truck, I've been looking for a radiator and ouch !

 

Several options

Rock is  $422 to my door for a standard rad with crimped tanks, guess it's chinese this is for a purchase price of just over $100

Mishimoto on ebag $1151 to my door, no crimped tanks and MIUSA, purchase price is $750

 

Other option is I do have a new old stock Northern Radiator ally rad with the inlet/outlet on the correct sides but no trans cooler, would need to make mounts and weld them to the rad to use this, it is IIRC 19 or 22 x31, 3 core, I do have a large seperate trans cooler with electric fans that would work.

 

I'm leaning towards the Mishimoto as I don't trust chinese stuff and don't really have time to mess around figuring out the Northern

No option of buying here, Mishimoto have a UK outlet but don't stock and will not stock the 1298 rad

Is the Mishi worth the $$

I watch Greg Alberalla on youtube, he builds Cummins trucks for himself and always uses Mishimoto radiators and intercoolers.  Been watching him for years and he's never had an issue with any of them.   

3 hours ago, Sycostang67 said:

I watch Greg Alberalla on youtube, he builds Cummins trucks for himself and always uses Mishimoto radiators and intercoolers.  Been watching him for years and he's never had an issue with any of them.   

 

I would hope so for $713 radiator...  I can buy 5 OE radiators at $140 a piece and most likely go even farther... I've got 436k miles on my truck and only had to buy 1 radiator in the total of 19 years. Next radiator will be somewhere around 600k miles roughly and still only be $280 dollar spent on just radiators. 

Edited November 19, 20213 yr by Mopar1973Man

6 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

 

I would hope so for $713 radiator...  I can buy 5 OE radiators at $140 a piece and most likely go even farther... I've got 436k miles on my truck and only had to buy 1 radiator in the total of 19 years. Next radiator will be somewhere around 600k miles roughly and still only be $280 dollar spent on just radiators. 

Yes you could buy 5 OE radiators but you are NOT 3000miles + away from a replacement when the cheapo chinese plastic cracks again, or arrives damaged, and an OE radiator is not £400 to your door, I've always tried to buy the best I can afford for both my rams due to the above.

And really when you look at the OE radiator it is rubbish

I get the VAT tax and distance thing... Trust me I do being most everything I need out here is still needs to be shipped here. I hope you luck on getting the new one hopefully undamaged too. 

2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I get the VAT tax and distance thing... Trust me I do being most everything I need out here is still needs to be shipped here. I hope you luck on getting the new one hopefully undamaged too. 

Thing is it may arrive with damage but ally is much more robust and fixable than plastic.

Trust me I mulled it over for over a month cos you are right $700 is a big pill to swallow but for me the ally rad is the way to go..... hopefully last the truck and me out

Well after the second arrival at Summit date change I cancelled the mishimoto, my decision was only based on the fact it could not have possibly got here until January and while I have a lot of Cat ELC coolant in stock the leak is getting worse and although my truck is mostly a work/tow truck when the phone rings I'm towing my workshop trailer and off fixing mobile plant, I have no other option as my 3500 is parked.

I had decided on the mishi as everywhere I looked said MIUSA  BUT when I cancelled the Summit order I got another screen come up that I have never seen before (never cancelled before). It had a reference to china, can't get to see it now as order has progressed to cancelled but after doing some searching it looks like designed in Delaware and made guess where

 

I'm definetly not paying somewhere around £900 to my door for a radiator MIC and I don't care if the queen designed it

Looks like it's a R/A cheapy which will be MIC but a lot cheaper and easier to swallow than £900

Doesn't surprise me at all. 

18 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Doesn't surprise me at all. 

Doesn't surprise me either but what does is the amount of sellers that quote MIUSA, now that really does bug me big time

Cheapest so far is ebay at £231

The more I think about it the more I think fit the Northern Radiator I have at least back in 04 to 09 when I bought it into the uk it was MIUSA, it's 19x36 3 core and IIRC small block Mopar pattern with drivers upper passenger lower, only thing is the passenger lower is right at the bottom whereas the cummins is higher and there is no brackets but I can fix that.

 

Here's a question,,,,, IF I fit this Northern Radiator it does come with a aluminium fan shrould with twin electric fans and the fans aren't mickey mouse, I need to measure them and find the cfm but will they cool enough, does anyone else use just electric fans ? it's the UK here not death valley either

Thinking about it the rad is the same as would be for a BB Mopar as in 440 just with the upper and lower the other way around and the fans are what would be specced for a BB 440 and that rad and fan combo more than keeps a 440 cool

I’ve always wondered if you could mount a dual electric fan set up on the front side (condenser/trans cooler) as pusher fans, and then another dual set on the back side as puller fans in place of the stock mechanical fan/shroud. I have a flex a lite 16” on my 4th gen as an auxiliary for stop/go in the summer. It definitely doesn’t move air like the belt driven fan, but maybe 4 of them teaming up could? Of course after you factor in the cost, time, wiring, and power upgrades needed, the juice might not be worth the squeeze. Either way I’m a fan of having an electric auxiliary fan, especially for the 2nd gen auto trans cooler for things like idling through a field on a 100 degree day in July loading hay on a gooseneck flatbed. That was the only time I’ve ever had my transmission temp light come on. Shifting to low range usually negates that, but having air move over the cooler even with a little 8” fan helps.

59 minutes ago, Andyba20 said:

I’ve always wondered if you could mount a dual electric fan set up on the front side (condenser/trans cooler) as pusher fans, and then another dual set on the back side as puller fans in place of the stock mechanical fan/shroud. I have a flex a lite 16” on my 4th gen as an auxiliary for stop/go in the summer. It definitely doesn’t move air like the belt driven fan, but maybe 4 of them teaming up could? Of course after you factor in the cost, time, wiring, and power upgrades needed, the juice might not be worth the squeeze. Either way I’m a fan of having an electric auxiliary fan, especially for the 2nd gen auto trans cooler for things like idling through a field on a 100 degree day in July loading hay on a gooseneck flatbed. That was the only time I’ve ever had my transmission temp light come on. Shifting to low range usually negates that, but having air move over the cooler even with a little 8” fan helps.

100f would be around 37 c     never see that here in the UK, 30c is  "quick the world is going to end" we are surrounded by sea so temps are relatively  stable all year with a swing of 40c from 30c down to -10c and the -10 is a 1 in a ten year

Got to wait for the Summit refund as thats a pile of ££ and then decide again

20 hours ago, wil440 said:

100f would be around 37 c     never see that here in the UK, 30c is  "quick the world is going to end" we are surrounded by sea so temps are relatively  stable all year with a swing of 40c from 30c down to -10c and the -10 is a 1 in a ten year

 

Must be nice... Across the pond here in Idaho USA it can reach over 110*F (43*C) then fall as deep as -40*F (-40*C). Which I've seen both extremes here in the last 30 years of living in Idaho. I will admit I would love to just visit over there to understand and sample the lifestyle once. 

 

20 hours ago, wil440 said:

Got to wait for the Summit refund as thats a pile of ££ and then decide again

Hope it works out better this time.

26 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

I will admit I would love to just visit over there to understand and sample the lifestyle once. 

 

Only a plane ride away, might give a bit though till this covid stuff has gone away

Everyone should have a proper Full English Breakfast and  a Sunday Roast once in their lives 

Biggest Full English I ever ate was as follows

4 rashers of bacon (not you thin stuff but our bacon)

4 pork sausages (again our sausages)

4 fried eggs

4 hash browns

4 thick slices of fried bread

4 thick slices of buttered toast

4 thick slices of bread/butter

Beans

Tomatoes 

Fried mushrooms

Oh and a coffee, had to be finished in 15 minutes which I did was as full as a bulls foot for 2 days, cost £7.50 but if you did it you got another free so actually did it twice

 

Seriously if anyone is planning holidaying here I can point you in the right directions and away from the tourist crap

3 minutes ago, wil440 said:

Everyone should have a proper Full English Breakfast and  a Sunday Roast once in their lives 

Ok that sounds good...

 

4 minutes ago, wil440 said:

Biggest Full English I ever ate was as follows

4 rashers of bacon (not you thin stuff but our bacon)

4 pork sausages (again our sausages)

4 fried eggs

4 hash browns

4 thick slices of fried bread

4 thick slices of buttered toast

4 thick slices of bread/butter

Beans

Tomatoes 

Fried mushrooms

Oh and a coffee, had to be finished in 15 minutes which I did was as full as a bulls foot for 2 days, cost £7.50 but if you did it you got another free so actually did it twice

I better go hungry for about 2 days first... 

3 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said:

Ok that sounds good...

 

I better go hungry for about 2 days first... 

That was just a eating challenge I stumbled upon we have roadside caravan eateries all over the place in laybys which are parking areas off of main roads, we don't have as many truck stops like you , we do have motorway service stations but you wouldn't eat in those way too expensive and garbage food anyway, the roadside stuff is a little like your food trucks, some are great and some are rubbish

This particular one was the most horrible looking EX mobile home converted to a cafe right next to a waste transfer station ( this is a very large building where area household waste/garbage goes to to get sorted) I'd been there working on a Cat loading shovel which had broken down INSIDE the building, this is when I worked for the UK Cat dealer, the doors are not allowed to be open other than to let garbage trucks in/out it's like a landfil but inside and it stinks..... surprisingly when I had finished the repair and was outside in the fresher air I could have ate the wheels off of my van

Oh I forgot there was also 4 slices of black pudding on the breakfast too

Refund from Summit finally arrived in my account and because of currency changes it is £30 odd less than I paid to start with SO Summit had my money from over a month and it cost me £30 now ain't that great, that's twice now as the original Mishimoto I bought off of ebay which was cancelled by the seller cost me about £5 due to currency 

 

Ordered a stock radiator off of ebay shipped by Ebays GSP for £233 which is $308 to my door with all taxes paid, might be here before xmas and just might arrive undamaged

I give you credit for all the hoops you have to jump through to keep your truck on the road. Don't think I could do it.

2 hours ago, Max Tune said:

I give you credit for all the hoops you have to jump through to keep your truck on the road. Don't think I could do it.

 What a PITA!

2 hours ago, Max Tune said:

I give you credit for all the hoops you have to jump through to keep your truck on the road. Don't think I could do it.

 

4 minutes ago, IBMobile said:

 What a PITA!

But if it was easy and cheap everyone here would be doing it, American cars/trucks are hobby vehicles here, I guess some do use them for day to day work as I do but that's a minority

 

I only now of 5 in the area I live in other than my 2 rams, 1 mid 70's Ford F150 1/4 mile away, 1 80's chevy blazer 4x4 1/4 mile away, 1 90's chevy astro van a mile or so away, my brothers 56 Ford F100, a 40's F100 about 8 mile away.

Although I dropped of 5 brake calipers for Rams at a local shot blaster that I have never used before (In my truck as it's my DD) and the guy has a 60's W300 he's putting a P pump Cummins in and a W200, he says he's going to use a ZF manual box as finding a 47re here is impossible which it is, P pump Cummins were used quite a bit here in 7.5tonne trucks  (15k to 17k lb trucks)

Believe it or not there is quite a scene summer time here, shows ,meets, swap meets, drag racing guess it started in and after WW2 and got bigger with the US airbases here which was the best place to buy American vehicles, a lot of the parts places here are or were close to US air bases

Anyone visiting here that's into cars/trucks check out Americana at Newark or the Mopar Muscle Association yearly meet at Santa Pod end of July and if you don't know what Santa Pod is check that out ( Nowt to do with what you think it might be)

Astro van!?!?

I understand the trucks. We all know trucks are cool, but an ASTRO VAN???

1 hour ago, Max Tune said:

Astro van!?!?

I understand the trucks. We all know trucks are cool, but an ASTRO VAN???

Just to outline how few American vehicles are around here