#1 - I'm not an expert, and don't really have any personnel experience on the subject.
#2 - This info is probably not going to be dead on or 100% true, but that's kinda gonna be the point of this thread. I want opinions voiced, and I want to be corrected if I'm wrong. Some of this info is old news to some of you, but I hope it could help some newbs that are wanting to upgrade injectors and/or turbo(s).
First I'm going to post roughly how much horsepower a specific size 7 hole injector will add:
(I use 7 hole, because it is the most common injector in a 24 valve - 6, 7, and 8 hole can be used on a 24V)
7x.0071 = Stock HO
7x.0075 = Stock SO
7x.0079 = RV275
7x.008 = +60HP/+70HP
7x.009 = +100HP/+125HP
7x.010 = +150HP
7x.011 = +175HP
7x.012 = +200HP
7x.013 = +225HP
7x.014 = +250HP
Keep in mind, a specific size doesn't mean it adds a specific horsepower; it just depends on the injector.
Here's some links to some very good information on injectors and turbos:
1( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/216421-injector-myth.html
2( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/216850-all-injector-info-youll-ever-want.html
3( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/219043-injectors-turbos.html
4( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/585794-turbo-spec-compilation.html
As the first link talks about, a 7x.010 injector will work fine with an HX35, as long as there's not a wire tap programmer being used. It will just be very smokey.
As the last link states, with a 7x.010 injector, a 62/68/12 turbo would be a nice application. With a wire tap programmer, a 62/+71/14 turbo would be a better application.
Like I said at the beginning, I'm definitely not an expert, and I'm still a newb myself, but I wanted to get the ball rolling, even if my information is not detailed, or if it has errors, (which I'm sure it does) that's kinda the point; I want to hear different opinions on different turbo/injector setups, and and what worked best for your truck, whether you daily drive, tow, or sled pull.
Y'all just pile any injector/turbo questions and information in this thread.
Somebody with some first hand experience chime in, and correct all my mistakes.
Thanks to JohnFak for more info:
DDP
Formula 1 (F1)
Industrail injection
Schied
Farm boys diesel
Coaltrain (not being made at this point as far as i know)
Smokem/Southern Diesel extreme
Injector Parts
Edge Jammers (no longer made)
Fireball Pro
Monster Mikes
Now to list what each Brand produces and the HP rating THEY give them. Info was taken directly from websites when available.
DDP
50hp, 75hp, 100hp, 110hp, 125hp, 150hp, 200hp, 250hp "competion" and 300hp "competion" (most are 7 hole nozzles but they do offer a 200hp injectors with 8 holes)
Formula 1 (uses a 7 hole nozzle)
Mach 1 = 65hp
Mach 1.6 = 90hp
Mach 2 = 105hp
Mach 3 = 130hp
Mach 4 = 150hp
Mach 5 = 200hp
Mach 6 = 220hp
Mach 7 = 240hp
Mach 8 = ~270hp when used with nitrous, 230hp on fuel
Industrial injection
Dragon Fly = 100hp (7 hole?)
Dragon Flow = 150hp (10 hole)
Super Dragon Flow = 200+hp (11 hole)
Schied
Lightning 1 = 100hp (6 hole?)
Lightning 2 = 150hp (6 x .012)
Lightning 3 = ~250hp (6 x .016)
Lightning 4 = 300hp+ (6 x .018)
FBD
50hp, 100hp, 150hp, 200hp, 220hp and 240hp (7 hole standard and custom 6 hole injectors available)
Coaltrain
50hp, 100hp, 150hp, 200hp, 240hp and maybe some customs in between ( all 7 hole that i know of)
Smokem/Southern Diesel Extreme
Smokem 100hp (7x .0085)
Smokem 125hp (7x .010 310BAR)
Smokem 150hp (7x .010 (.010 lift and stroke) 310BAR)
Smokem 200hp (7x .012 310 BAR)
Smokem 240hp (7x .012 (.010 lift and stroke) 310BAR)
Smokem 250hp+ (7x14 and up custom order, these are comp only injector)
Injector parts
200hp, 250hp, 300hp, and 350hp. (made by the same people that made jammer nozzles, 8 holes)
Edge Jammers
Jammer 1 = 50hp
Jammer 2 = 75hp
Jammer 3 = 100hp
Jammer 4 = 125hp
Jammer 5 = 150 hp
(all 8 hole)
Fireball Pro
50hp, 75hp, 100hp, 150hp, 200hp (? hole, couldnt find much info on them)
Monster Mikes
200hp (6 x .013)
250hp+ (7 x .015)
The link mike was talking about ..... is this one ....
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94...breakdown.html
#1 - I'm not an expert, and don't really have any personnel experience on the subject. #2 - This info is probably not going to be dead on or 100% true, but that's kinda gonna be the point of this thread. I want opinions voiced, and I want to be corrected if I'm wrong. Some of this info is old news to some of you, but I hope it could help some newbs that are wanting to upgrade injectors and/or turbo(s). First I'm going to post roughly how much horsepower a specific size 7 hole injector will add: (I use 7 hole, because it is the most common injector in a 24 valve - 6, 7, and 8 hole can be used on a 24V) 7x.0071 = Stock HO 7x.0075 = Stock SO 7x.0079 = RV275 7x.008 = +60HP/+70HP 7x.009 = +100HP/+125HP 7x.010 = +150HP 7x.011 = +175HP 7x.012 = +200HP 7x.013 = +225HP 7x.014 = +250HP Keep in mind, a specific size doesn't mean it adds a specific horsepower; it just depends on the injector. Here's some links to some very good information on injectors and turbos: 1( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/216421-injector-myth.html 2( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/216850-all-injector-info-youll-ever-want.html 3( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/219043-injectors-turbos.html 4( http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/585794-turbo-spec-compilation.html As the first link talks about, a 7x.010 injector will work fine with an HX35, as long as there's not a wire tap programmer being used. It will just be very smokey. As the last link states, with a 7x.010 injector, a 62/68/12 turbo would be a nice application. With a wire tap programmer, a 62/+71/14 turbo would be a better application. Like I said at the beginning, I'm definitely not an expert, and I'm still a newb myself, but I wanted to get the ball rolling, even if my information is not detailed, or if it has errors, (which I'm sure it does) that's kinda the point; I want to hear different opinions on different turbo/injector setups, and and what worked best for your truck, whether you daily drive, tow, or sled pull. Y'all just pile any injector/turbo questions and information in this thread. Somebody with some first hand experience chime in, and correct all my mistakes.
Thanks to JohnFak for more info: