I've been needing tires on my dually for awhile. When I got stuck (saturday) in the wet grass, spun, but didn't tear up the yard, I knew I had issues. Later that day, towing my 20ft enclosed down the 2-lane back roads, I was traveling about 15mph. Went to pass the bicycle while climbing a slight grade, I added throttle and spun the tires with ease..

Now, these tires (Firestone Transforce AT, 235/85-16) aren't bald, by any stretch, but they are getting close to their end of life cycle..

I decided to look for tires. My sizes were 215/85-16, 235/85-16, or 245/85-16.

I searched and searched, and 6 tires seemed to average about $1000 or so, shipped. Locally, that figure was higher.

I did about 6hrs of combined research on the Treadwrights. I also checked the state laws on re-treads for the steer axle, and it's legal here, with exception to commercial vehicles.

I spoke with someone at Treadwright, and they said that I could expect 40-60k out of a set, provided I stayed diligent with rotation and pressure, as well as alignment.

I couldn't find much in the way of "negative" with these. So, I bit the bullet on a set (6) of 245/75-16 Warden A/Ts (E). I'm hoping they'll be here this week. I'll definitely keep you guys posted on how these turn out.

I did not get the B2B style.

The tires ran $90 each, $540 for the set of six, and $144 shipping. Total was $648.48 delivered.

Yeah I dunno.. As far approach, scales are elevated but approach/departure was level with the scales. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Scaled it this afternoon.. 1/8 tank fuel, bed empty Fr: 4140 Rr: 2840 Truck: 7220 Hows the ends not add up to the total? 6980 doesn't equal 7220.. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

That is rather strange.

I know if the scale where I used to work wasn't calibrated quite right, then weight out on one end or the other would register differently than if that weight was in the middle.

#240 difference... you sure you didn't hop out of the truck while it was getting weighed the first time? I'm guessing you had a full length truck pad, make sure you have the weighed axle on as far the pad without having the other axle onboard. Then, if you can, don't drive ahead to weigh the rear axle from other end of pad. (back up, turn around and back onto the scale to weigh the rear axle.) Your rear axle will be in same spot as front was.

I'm fat, but I ain't that fat! LOL

Scaled it this afternoon.. 1/8 tank fuel, bed empty Fr: 4140 Rr: 2840 Truck: 7220 Hows the ends not add up to the total? 6980 doesn't equal 7220..

Very close to my weights. Front: 4440 Rear: 2860 Total: 7300

It's odd a 3/4 ton weighs less than a 1 ton dually

Yeah, I'm not putting a lot of faith in the scales I used...

Scaled it this afternoon.. 1/8 tank fuel, bed empty Fr: 4140 Rr: 2840 Truck: 7220 Hows the ends not add up to the total? 6980 doesn't equal 7220.. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

They must use that new math..

With all this weighing and pressuring, are the tires doing any better?

Lol. Well I haven't come up with a definite pressure to set the at yet. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

So I dropped pressure in the rears to 45psi. It seems to tow much more stable, and the contact patch is at about 95% contact towing. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Just make sure theyre not building excessive heat at the lower pressures if your running loaded like that.Glad theyre working out for you, I'll be in the market for a set before winter and might take a closer look at a set of all seasons.

I used to run 22psi in my duals when empty, around 45 with the goosneck on (rear axle at around 6000 lbs). did that for 45,000 miles and the tires looked about 40-50% tread when I sold the pickup.

Just make sure theyre not building excessive heat at the lower pressures if your running loaded like that. Glad theyre working out for you, I'll be in the market for a set before winter and might take a closer look at a set of all seasons.

JR, I'm monitoring them with my IR temp gun. they're still a tad warmer on the center than the edges, but by about 10*F. I'm keeping an eye on them, for sure. with a rear weight (empty of under 3000lb, I can't see where 30-45psi would be a problem. Even my trailer loaded, I'm still at maybe 4000lb rear truck axle weight, at most. We'll see

Heres a pic of the light feathering I was seeing at 65psi. [ATTACH]5708[/ATTACH][ATTACH]5709[/ATTACH]Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

I still must strenuously disagree with this method of tire pressure calculation. The logic is sound, but you cannot run a tire flat safely! By this logic, an empty trailer should have tires around 7-10psi. No!Many commercial tires will have a load table published suggesting inflation pressures for given loads. Follow those! If your tire doesn't have one published, look for similar tires and use them as a guideline. the very most critical thing in a dual tire setup is that the sidewalls do not contact each other. That'll build heat very quickly and lead to failure. Running such low pressures in your duals I hope they have a large amoun of clearance between the sidewalls to account for flex when you hit bumps or for the quick load you take while underinflated. Tapatalking in traffic

Just make sure theyre not building excessive heat at the lower pressures if your running loaded like that. Glad theyre working out for you, I'll be in the market for a set before winter and might take a closer look at a set of all seasons.

This tire saga is starting to turn into a parallel of my trans saga

How are they holding up Rick? I have never been a dually owner and havent paid much attention to them but what Mindless is saying seems logical. Most any tire will have the weight ratings stamped on the casing for a single wheel and a dual and therecommended pressure doesnt change.

Just my .02 cents here guys...............I run my Cooper Discoverer AT3's at 70psi front and back on my 3/4 ton '04.5. I'm too lazy to "air up" and then "air down" as I hitch and unhitch my work trailer daily. Prior to these tires I ran the OEM Michelins and the Cooper ATR's at 70psi front and back also. Got 81,000 miles on the Michelins and 74,000+ on the ATR's before the current Coopers. Almost 34,000 on the AT3's now..............and they have probably 65% of tread left.Since I've been driving, I've always run my tires "hard". Better mileage and less heat build up that way. IMNTBHO; if your tire is "properly" sized for your rim, you should be able to run "max" pressure without abnormal tire wear. I've done it for years!!! And "knock on wood", I've always had great tire life!!!