Factory alarm question

[SilverMoose]

Ok guys this is starting to drive me nuts.  When I use the keyless remote to unlock my truck it occasionally sets the alarm off (3 long honks).  It doesn't do it all the time but of course usually at 6:30 am when I'm going to work.  It's not like the short honk when locking it but 3 long ones.  Has anyone experienced this or know why?  I thought it might be the remote but it does it with both of them.  I have taken the remote apart and put tape over the contacts for the panic button to disable that and it still happens.  Not happening all the time is what has me baffled.

 

Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thx

D

[IBMobile]

I think your central timing module is bad.  Get the part number from Dodge incase it superseded then see if you can find a used one on Ebay with that part number.  You'll have to reflash your fob to the new (used) CTM.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/56045448AD-2001-Dodge-Ram-1500-2500-Body-Control-Central-Timer-Module-BCM-CTM-/252812249103?fits=Year%3A2001|Make%3ADodge|Model%3ARam+2500&hash=item3adcc8c80f:g:u2kAAOSwCU1Yx2Wj&vxp=mtr 

[SilverMoose]

Thanks IB.  I will probably let it go for a while as I might need new batteries.  Are there any other common symptoms of the BCM going south?  I will look for them.

 

Thx

D

[jlbayes]

So there are two different deally-ohs with the fob and actual alarm. The fob is just for the panic alarm. There was a security option as well. If you send me the last 8 of the vin I can tell you which you are supposed to have.

[SilverMoose]

Thanks @jlbayes I will get that in the morning.  I'm pretty sure I have the security system as it has the little red blinking light on the overhead. 

 

 

I just found the build sheet and it has the alarm.

 

Last 8 of vin 1G762141

 

Thx

D

Edited March 25, 2017 by SilverMoose

[Chris O.]

Since you are in the beta testing team of my overhead gauge. Whatever you do don't replace the CTM yet until you receive my beta test gauge please.  You will be able to read the codes if there is any, i would really love to see the log files.
Just keep this in mind ok.

[SilverMoose]

I plan to deal with it as long as I can.  Right now occasional beeps is tolerable.

 

L8tr

D

[JAG1]

10 hours ago, Chris O. said:

Since you are in the beta testing team of my overhead gauge. Whatever you do don't replace the CTM yet until you receive my beta test gauge please.  You will be able to read the codes if there is any, i would really love to see the log files.
Just keep this in mind ok.

Do you mean that you can see history of the truck and its error codes that have cleared in the past?

 I ask because I just bought an 01 that has the factory alarm and would like to know the work that was done to it.

 

Edited March 25, 2017 by JAG1

[Chris O.]

Quote

Do you mean that you can see history of the truck and its error codes that have cleared in the past?

(CTM) CENTRAL TIMER MODULE
I can only read 6 DTCs
Wiper Park Switch
Key Cylinder Disarm Switch
Door Lock Switch
Door Unlock Switch
Module Hardware Fault 1
Module Hardware Fault 2

 

@ SilverMoose How about you try this:

enable/disable horn honk when locking doors
This process should work on all second gens (or at least late model second gens with factory keyless entry) gas and diesel alike. should also work on dakotas and durangos.

with door closed, put key in ignition and turn key to the "on" position without starting.

on the keyfob, hold down the "lock" button for 4 seconds, and then push and hold the "unlock" button while still holding down the "lock" button until you hear a chime. release both buttons, turn the key off, and you're done!

make sure NOT to hold down the lock button longer than 10 seconds before pushing the unlock button or the process will not work.

3rd/4th gen trucks have a similar process to enable/disable horn report on door lock, but instead of using the unlock button after the 4 second period, they use the panic button, otherwise the procedure is identical.

[joeld79]

take the CTM out, wrap in foil tape from home depot, never hear 3 honks again.  The radio frequency dodge used was vulnerable to other radio devices such as keyfobs, police/fire radios, motion activated doors, etc and will trigger the tamper honk.

Edited March 26, 2017 by joeld79

[jlbayes]

On 3/24/2017 at 10:15 PM, SilverMoose said:

Thanks @jlbayes I will get that in the morning.  I'm pretty sure I have the security system as it has the little red blinking light on the overhead. 

 

 

I just found the build sheet and it has the alarm.

 

Last 8 of vin 1G762141

 

Thx

D

 

Yessir and no panic alarm which my 01 has. 

[SilverMoose]

On 3/25/2017 at 1:10 PM, Chris O. said:

(CTM) CENTRAL TIMER MODULE
I can only read 6 DTCs
Wiper Park Switch
Key Cylinder Disarm Switch
Door Lock Switch
Door Unlock Switch
Module Hardware Fault 1
Module Hardware Fault 2

 

@ SilverMoose How about you try this:

enable/disable horn honk when locking doors
This process should work on all second gens (or at least late model second gens with factory keyless entry) gas and diesel alike. should also work on dakotas and durangos.

with door closed, put key in ignition and turn key to the "on" position without starting.

on the keyfob, hold down the "lock" button for 4 seconds, and then push and hold the "unlock" button while still holding down the "lock" button until you hear a chime. release both buttons, turn the key off, and you're done!

make sure NOT to hold down the lock button longer than 10 seconds before pushing the unlock button or the process will not work.

3rd/4th gen trucks have a similar process to enable/disable horn report on door lock, but instead of using the unlock button after the 4 second period, they use the panic button, otherwise the procedure is identical.

Thanks @Chris O. I will give that a try.  I was wondering if there was something like that (like the doors locking at 15 mph).

 

@jlbayes so mine doesn't have the panic feature?  Interesting and will verify.

 

Thx to all

D

[jlbayes]

On 3/24/2017 at 10:15 PM, SilverMoose said:

Thanks @jlbayes I will get that in the morning.  I'm pretty sure I have the security system as it has the little red blinking light on the overhead. 

 

 

I just found the build sheet and it has the alarm.

 

Last 8 of vin 1G762141

 

Thx

D

 

Not according to the sales codes. Unless I am blind lol

Edited March 28, 2017 by jlbayes

[dripley]

Maybe added after the original sale. My wifes 1st Dakota did not have cruise. We added it and it looked factory. Just like the one that came on my truck. Not sure what you have to add for the security system though. 

Edited March 28, 2017 by dripley

[SilverMoose]

I need to check further.  I got the truck from my brother who bought it new.  I don't think he would have added it but maybe he did.  Would that be a software update or new BCM?  I do have the original window sticker and will check that.  

 

@jlbayes are you saying it has the alarm but no panic feature?  Sorry a bit confused.  Rough week at work already. Is it Friday yet.  

 

Thx

D

[dripley]

2 hours ago, SilverMoose said:

Is it Friday yet.  

No. The whole month of March has been Monday for me and it aint over with yet. I does however have to end sometime.

 Good luck with your Monday.

[jlbayes]

12 hours ago, SilverMoose said:

I need to check further.  I got the truck from my brother who bought it new.  I don't think he would have added it but maybe he did.  Would that be a software update or new BCM?  I do have the original window sticker and will check that.  

 

@jlbayes are you saying it has the alarm but no panic feature?  Sorry a bit confused.  Rough week at work already. Is it Friday yet.  

 

Thx

D

 

No bcm. CTM ;)

 

The panic feature and security alarm are separate features. With my panic alarm I can open the doors locked from the inside without it going off. I can however hit the button on the remote and it will go off. With security alarm it would go off if you tried to open a locked door.

[SilverMoose]

Got it thanks @jlbayes.  I still have to try what @Chris O. suggested but I might wait until the mailman shows up.

 

Anyone still have this?  I knew I had it somewhere.

 

 

Thx

D

 

 

 

 

Window Sticker.pdf

[LLY]

I have a truck doing the same thing but the key fob does not work, so the truck will not start, is there any way to bypass the CTM to get the truck running again ? Dealer said they can get a new fob but can not program it so the truck just sets now 

[jlbayes]

Use the key to shut off the alarm using the door lock.