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Elknih

1999 2500, 4X4 auto stock... 147K, inherit from Step Dad. Truck sat for about 4 yrs, monthly starting. steel lines from the top of level sending unit is leaking fuel badly. (i.e. painting line paint in the street bad). I'm wanting to order and put in Drawstraw I from Vulcan. From what I "can" see it def the steel line. Wil the Vulcan handle the fix? Also the $50 question, drop a half tank of fuel or pull the bed...and where are your vids on either choice? Thanxs..

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Mopar1973Man

Empty fuel tank is easy to pull out and can be done by a single person in just about 1 hour to pull down fix the gauge sender and mount again. post-2-13869816919_thumb.jpg I sat on the floor with a beer in one hand and a camera in the other and my buddy got the tank in by himself... :thumbup2:

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guesswho512

i agree. wait till the tank is nearly empty. i may have removed the drive shaft. my buddy did it in about the same time :lmao:. in retrospect, i wish i would have dropped the $ for a different draw straw. then you could run the return into the same as the pump pickup. if the vp44 really does return up to 70% of the fuel, then the fuel wouldn't have far to go. not to mention, not cutting my filler neck.

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Elknih

thanks for the input. The empty tank dropping seemed best bet to me, but I'm the new guy here. Do you think the Vulan straw will fix my leak? Cant wait to get a fuel tank on my forehead:smart:

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dually

From what i understand the draw straw deal is in the tank.Your problem is out side the tank.If you have a hotrod the draw straw may help,however what about the thickness of the rest of the line?If you have a somewhat factory setup the factory sending unit will work fine.But it still not fix the outside from leaking if the line leaks.

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Elknih

:ahhh:My point is the dealer parts man (stupid or confused) tried to tell me I can only get the entire "basket" assemby ($650)... which blew my mind. and from my minumal knowledge I'm not in-tank with pump. I cant get my hands on any pics/vids of a stock "basket" to think this thru. I'm just not picturing the assembly and what may be broke.

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dually

On top from what i remember there is one line with a gray fitting thats the return line from the back of the head.One line that goes to the lift pump.One vent...and that may be it.I will try to post a picture when i get home from work.

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Mopar1973Man

:ahhh:My point is the dealer parts man (stupid or confused) tried to tell me I can only get the entire "basket" assemby ($650)... which blew my mind. and from my minumal knowledge I'm not in-tank with pump. I cant get my hands on any pics/vids of a stock "basket" to think this thru. I'm just not picturing the assembly and what may be broke.

I love the dealer con game...:lmao::lmao2: Yes they do sell the full module for that high price but you can also get just the fuel sender too... Most don't want to tell you that..

As for the drawstraw system depending on model you pick you can out right replace the entire pickup assembly. Like My AirDog came with the old school version.

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gassernomore

I believe that a Drawstraw 5 is what your looking for. That is the one that was recommended to me from Vulcan.

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Elknih

Got the tank down. A little trouble around the carrier bearing but no blood. The steel supply and returns were rusted so bad they twisted right off. I'm off to dealer to see if I can just get those. If not it's a call to Vulcan.post-10390-138698169268_thumb.jpg Rusted lines within the "red ring" Whats the other two plugs in this picture? The vent I assume (9 o'clock) appears to have a hose barb on it, but no hose when I pulled down.

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Mopar1973Man

Hmmm... If it was me I would consider just getting the vulcan draw straw and drill and tap a fitting into the module for standard 3/8 hose and attach the return line with normal rubber hose and hose clamps. Way cheaper than a Dodge dealer can do...

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Prowelder

Hmmm... If it was me I would consider just getting the vulcan draw straw and drill and tap a fitting into the module for standard 3/8 hose and attach the return line with normal rubber hose and hose clamps. Way cheaper than a Dodge dealer can do...

That would be my method if I was doing it!:thumbup2:

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Elknih

Both dealers I called said I would need the entire fuel module. $489. Uhhhh NO! So i dropped a line to Eric @ Vulcan. We'll see what he recommends and order it up.

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Mopar1973Man

Both dealers I called said I would need the entire fuel module. $489. Uhhhh NO! So i dropped a line to Eric @ Vulcan. We'll see what he recommends and order it up.

I figured that was coming... Dodge wants way too much for fuel senders... :stuned:

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Elknih

Got w/ Eric at Vulcan and have a draw straw on order for next Monday. Far cry cheaper than the dealers cost to fix if I can "shade tree" the parts.

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Elknih

After a delayed shipment got the new straw in. Not too happy with parts supply. New straw went in module great but I received a stock quick connect fuel return nipple and a snap lock hose barbed nipple. Didn't want to cut factory. I rigged a new stock end nipple and started rolling coal

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randy4140

Help me understand...Do we all have in tank pumps? To go along with the stock Carter/or other lift pumps on the motor, and The VP44??/Or do just some years have an in tank pump?I was under the impression--mistakenly perhaps--That all I had in the tank was a pickup straw, and a sending unit for the fuel level.Please explain this to me, Thx

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Mopar1973Man

All 1998.5 to 2002 had the lift pump on the engine block on the driver side... The only time this changed is if someone took there truck to the dealer and the dealer automatically installs a junk in-tank pump. The way to tell is the fuel lines are bridged together with a aluminum block where the old pump was located and the lift pump leads are extended to the fuel tank.

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randy4140

Thanks Michael, that's what I thought, but was confused with the several options by Vulcan ect. So in your opinion if the stock one is working...should I upgrade to a Vulcan draws traw anyway? Is there a great difference in reliability and performance? am I going to notice any difference by changing it

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Mopar1973Man

Only time I see the need for a drawstraw is for a 150 GPH pump. The 100 GPH pumps work fine from the stock fuel sender (without the intank pump). But if you got a intank pump now you've got no choice and have to upgrade to a drawstraw for any aftermarket pump...

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