clutch master cylinder?

[ruquick77]

Hello everyone! I have a 2002 ram2500 with 6spd in it, I replaced the clutch and slave cylinder about 24,000 miles ago. It's hard to shift into any gear from a dead stop, it shifts fine when I'm moving. Is this signs of the clutch master cylinder going out? I have no leaks anywhere and the reservoir is full. If it is the clutch master cylinder that needs to be replaced can I just replace that and not the slave? I'm a little tight on money right now and trying to save as much as I can. Thanks for any helpP.S. I wanted to add the reason I replaced the slave cylinder, I was driving home from work one day and in the midle of shifts it would not go into any gear I was able to get it home without the clutch because when in happened I was only about a mile from the house. I did a search on the web and thought it might be the slave cylinder so I replaced that and it didn't fix it so I replace the clutch. I didn't think about replacing the master at the time.

[98whitelightnin]

I just bought a master/slave cylinder unit for mine for just over $100. I didnt think you could get them seperate. Mine is new and it does the same thing as yours. have to put it in 2nd just before it stops rolling or its a pain to get in.

[Mopar1973Man]

Must not of bled it out right and have air bubble caught in the system. You must remove the entire htdrualic system to bleed it properly. http://articles.mopar1973man.com/2nd-generation-24v-dodge-cummins/28-transmission-systems/54-hydraulic-clutch-master-and-slave-replacement

I didnt think you could get them seperate.

Yes you can buy them separately.

[98whitelightnin]

Thanks Mike, wish I would have seen theis a week ago.

[ruquick77]

Ok today I pulled the entire hydraulic system off and the master cylinder did have a small leak that I could not see when in was installed so I bought a new one. I flushed the line and slave cylinder out and put new brake fluid in and bleed the system following the write up under the articles. Reinstalled everything and it still doing the same thing, I have not test drove it yet but it's hard to shift into gear with it just sitting. I'm hoping after the some driving it will get better.

[Mopar1973Man]

Last resort trick you might try. Try pumping the clutch pedal several time rapidly and see if that helps the issue. If so you still got air in the line yet. Rapid clutch pedal pumping might work the last bit of air out.

[dripley]

I replaced my master about 2.5 years ago. I just put it on a bled it by pumping the pedal. Now this did take quite a while as in a couple of weeks or more before I got all the air out. It did finally work though and had not had any issues sense.

[jp4bigblue]

Last resort trick you might try. Try pumping the clutch pedal several time rapidly and see if that helps the issue. If so you still got air in the line yet. Rapid clutch pedal pumping might work the last bit of air out.

This might sound crazy but when i bought my truck a couple months ago it had a new clutch and there was air in the line. I took the cap off and pumped the clutch a million times trying to get the air bubble out. It didnt help at all.

I then took it to the biggest hill i could find by my house took the cap off and pumped the clutch. I knew i had something when fluid shot all over my windshield. My clutch has worked great ever since.

I just figured changing the angle would allow the air to come out. Worked for me.

Jason

[ruquick77]

I've put around 100 miles on it since the install and so far no improvemen. If it doesnt get better by the weekend I might pull it all off and try to get the air out if thats the problem. I have noticed that my clutch pedal is a lot softer then before, seems a little sloppy at the top.

[jp4bigblue]

I've put around 100 miles on it since the install and so far no improvemen. If it doesnt get better by the weekend I might pull it all off and try to get the air out if thats the problem. I have noticed that my clutch pedal is a lot softer then before, seems a little sloppy at the top.My clutch was also soft at the top, and it would grab right off the floor. I was going to take my assembly off and try to bleed the air. I first tried to take the cap off the reservoir and pump the clutch to see if it would push the air out....this didnt do much of anything. I then took my truck to the steepest hill i could find around my house. I mean when i parked on it i was starring up at the sky. I took the cap off the reservoir (after I chocked the tires) and pumped the clutch about 100 times. The steep angle allowed the air to be pushed out. This worked for me like a charm....maybe it will work for you.Jason

[Boilermaker]

I had to replace the clutch master cylinder a couple years ago.I too ,had much trouble bleeding the air from the system but finally got it by removing the slave cyl. and moving the line from over the brake master cyl. so the clutch line would hang straight down and allow the air to rise up to the top. When put back in place it finally worked again like it was supposed to. No clutch trouble since. Why didn't Dodge run the line down all the way so there wouldn't be a higher than the cyl.place in the line to hold air?

[dorkweed]

I had to replace the clutch master cylinder a couple years ago.I too ,had much trouble bleeding the air from the system but finally got it by removing the slave cyl. and moving the line from over the brake master cyl. so the clutch line would hang straight down and allow the air to rise up to the top. When put back in place it finally worked again like it was supposed to. No clutch trouble since. Why didn't Dodge run the line down all the way so there wouldn't be a higher than the cyl.place in the line to hold air?

It took a college edgumucated "engineer" to design it that way so the "backyard" mechanic can't work on his vehicle any longer. Make me wonder why the repair/shop manuals aren't considered "top secret"!!!!!