Oil Sample tooling

[Wild and Free]

There has been a lot of discussion about oil samples lately and another member had a sample with high Silicon in his sample and after a few questions found he had a good chance of contaminating the sample with dirt while taking the sample the wrong way. I took some pics of a couple different tools to do it the correct way to eliminate the chance of dirt in the sample. There are 2 different tools to get this done and I will attach pics of both here.

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Here is a pic of an oil sampling gun with hose and sample bottle attached, also in the picture is an oil sample port that Cat uses on all of the component on their newer equipment, I also have one of these installed in my system for easier and cleaner sampling than the sample gun. Also as you can see the sample port fittings come in either o-ring boss or pipe thread to accommodate different places you would want to pull a sample from, Cat uses almost 100% o-ring boss fittings. In another pic shows the yellow rubber cap that covers the fitting and as you can see it is labeled as engine oil, on the Cat equipment different components have different colored caps and are labeled hydraulic, transmission ect.

[hex0rz]

Don't worry I'll come out and admit it! I'm the big dope! :ashamed:Got an account setup with Amsoil, so I will be buying their siphon kit soon...

[Wild and Free]

I wasn't going to name anyone personally lol ?

I would have thought this thread would have gotten more attention, 24 hours and only 7 members have viewed it?

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Got an account setup with Amsoil, so I will be buying their siphon kit soon...

Personally I would go to a Cat dealer and get a sample port and install it on your engine and then get the little brass sample tool from them, a lot cheaper and easier to use than the gun even, Cat also carries the hose in bulk as well. I have not used my sample gun in a few years, I always use the little brass sample tool. Cat even just released a new sample kit, It consists of a bottle cap with a hole in the center and about a foot of hose to use with what I am talking about, The mechanics like using that more so than anything now when pulling samples on equipment.

[dripley]

I am paying attention. I just have so much on my to do list it si hard to add something else.

[hex0rz]

I wasn't going to name anyone personally lol ?

I would have thought this thread would have gotten more attention, 24 hours and only 7 members have viewed it?

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Personally I would go to a Cat dealer and get a sample port and install it on your engine and then get the little brass sample tool from them, a lot cheaper and easier to use than the gun even, Cat also carries the hose in bulk as well. I have not used my sample gun in a few years, I always use the little brass sample tool. Cat even just released a new sample kit, It consists of a bottle cap with a hole in the center and about a foot of hose to use with what I am talking about, The mechanics like using that more so than anything now when pulling samples on equipment.

Eh, its kinda like when you go tell a woman to go find a switch the size of your thumb to beat her with and she comes back with a little whp instead...

Can you source me an image of this sample port? Where does it install at? Can I use the plastic line that the SOS kit provides?

[CSM]

I need to read this... Just not tonight. thanks for putting it together Bill.

[Wild and Free]

Eh, its kinda like when you go tell a woman to go find a switch the size of your thumb to beat her with and she comes back with a little whp instead... Can you source me an image of this sample port? Where does it install at? Can I use the plastic line that the SOS kit provides?

Pics of an o-ring boss and pipe thread sample port are in the pics above and yes all sample tubing is universal. Any Cat dealer will have this all in stock. Take the gun out of the second picture and you have all you would need, pictured are one of each o-ring boss and pipe thread, first pic shows how the 2 mate, with the engine running you have one end of the hose in the bottle and you push the sample fitting tool onto the sample port and engine oil pressure fills the bottle with fresh hot oil in about 2-3 seconds. There is also another type of sample tool similar to the one below that the hose attaches to only it is chrome and a 90 degree, I will get a pic of one from work next week. You can put the sample port right into a spare port right on top of the oil filter head.

[Rogan]

what are the average costs of this setup, and where do you recommend the sample port be located?

[Wild and Free]

what are the average costs of this setup, and where do you recommend the sample port be located?

If you bought everything in the pictures under 50 bucks "I am not sure what the guns cost" , just the fittings and hose under 10 bucks bur pricing will vary from dealer to dealer I would suspect, and the easiest best spot for the fitting is right on top of the engine oil filter head as it states in the last sentence of my last post.

[Rogan]

Sorry I missed it. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

[CSM]

So, its not good to just take a sample from the drain plug or a syringe from the filter? also... Where would you recommend to put the sample port?

[Wild and Free]

So, its not good to just take a sample from the drain plug or a syringe from the filter? also... Where would you recommend to put the sample port?

Never take a sample out of a filter and you can take a sample only if the drain plug area is cleaned very good before hand, the oil is hot and you dip from the full stream after is has run out for a few seconds to flush out any debris from the plug threads. Reread my last 2 posts sheesh doesn't anybody read anything any more?:banghead:

[CSM]

Never take a sample out of a filter and you can take a sample only if the drain plug area is cleaned very good before hand, the oil is hot and you dip from the full stream after is has run out for a few seconds to flush out any debris from the plug threads. Reread my last 2 posts sheesh doesn't anybody read anything any more?:banghead:

I guess not. Sorry bub.

[hex0rz]

Reread my last 2 posts sheesh doesn't anybody read anything any more?:banghead:

Okay, gotcha! Now, isn't that port on the oil filter block also used when you do an oil bypass kit? I would like to eventually have one, but was not sure if there would be a conflict between the two and that port?

[Wild and Free]

Okay, gotcha! Now, isn't that port on the oil filter block also used when you do an oil bypass kit? I would like to eventually have one, but was not sure if there would be a conflict between the two and that port?

Yes but if you add a bypass kit you can just simply tee into the pressure line or some bypass filter heads have ports on them as well.

[Wild and Free]

Here is a link to a site with every kind of oil sample tooling and supplies and how to explanations ect. It should help clear up some of your questions. http://www.checkfluid.com/

[War Eagle]

Here is a link to a site with every kind of oil sample tooling and supplies and how to explanations ect. It should help clear up some of your questions. http://www.checkfluid.com/

Thanks for the info!