Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
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Send it my way.  Just want the boost defuel to say 35 psi?  I don't get much above 1200 on a hard pull so the egt backdown might not be a good one for me to test.

Went to far.  Gonna trim it back and then retest.

If there was a way I could get to the menu easy on my phone I'd be happy to help out with logging data. Since the icon is so tiny and hard to get the menu open it not safe for me to even try in all my travels. It not safe for me even try getting menu open and exporting a data log. I sure wish this problem was fixed. 

@Mopar1973Man  I wont have time to chat about your findings for a bit here.  Post them up and  I will take a peak at any bugs.

@Carbur8tr @TFaoro @Mopar1973Man @Dieselfuture

 

Here ya go,give this a try.   It will pull as much canbus + wiretap as needed to keep boost slightly below desired level,  It will bounce somewhat around the limit, but for my it stablized at about 20 psi when the limit was at 23.    Once it finds a happy defuel amount it will hold until boost falls.  

 

Anyways give her a go and let mw know what you think.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B46GXQ9arT2lUWR6Znk2N1gwbEU/view?usp=sharing

Awesome. I'll give it a shot this week. I wonder if I can hold boost down to 20. Max speed of 50 here I come!

well it was pulling ~%50 of total fueling to keep me at 20 psi.....  

I will post up my results from my road trip. I averaged 18.4 mpg towing a 4000lb trailer with the bed full of hunting gear @63 mph. From Yuma to San Diego. There is a significant grade on that stretch as well. @Me78569 is the above link for guys with stock motors?

Yes it is the standard fuel.

Well he basically said yall are wasting your time with the pop pressure changes. lol

  On 2/13/2017 at 3:10 PM, jlbayes said:

Well he basically said yall are wasting your time with the pop pressure changes. lol

Good to know.  I trust his judgement more than my own haha.    Back into the hole I go

 

Defuel stuff.

I did some more testing today with the defuel update.  Rather than set defuel at 23 psi ( unrealistic for my setup) I set it at 30 psi.  Result was good, I floored it, boost spiked to ~32psi then settled right down at 29 psi and held.  While it works in both situtations, 23 psi and 30 psi, you can tell that the quad didn't have to work as hard to keep boost down.

 

You could def feel the defuel happening, but it was not surge-y

 

I do have to say though, if you want to use the defuel stuff, ensure your base tune makes sense for that defuel point, IE don't run a race tune with defuel set at 23 psi.  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569

I am still interested in seeing if the change would be worth it. Just my curiosity more than anything lol

Well that's  a hard one to justify, asking someone to try something someone smarter than us doesn't recommend.  haha.

  On 2/11/2017 at 3:18 AM, Mopar1973Man said:

If there was a way I could get to the menu easy on my phone I'd be happy to help out with logging data. Since the icon is so tiny and hard to get the menu open it not safe for me to even try in all my travels. It not safe for me even try getting menu open and exporting a data log. I sure wish this problem was fixed. 

I do have a drop with more appropriately sized icons, however, I'm not sure it worked all that well. 

 

@Quadzilla Power, I had a buddy mention something about lack of color and back ground options. He would like more lol

@Me78569

 

I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Does it also pull for EGT or just boost currently?

 

Also, I caught the lope today but I don't think the data is worth a damn.  If you can find something then awesome, but I haven't been able to identify anything.  The last 30 seconds of the data is where it was happening, and off and on through the short accelerations.  Also my RPMs usually hover around 850 in the morning when cold then 825 when warm so 800 is a bit low which is where it's more noticeable.  I know you've got a lot on your plate right now so no biggie, just wanted to get you some data one the topic.

 

iQuad-2017-02-13-02.46.39.csvUnavailable

I love data  

 

Both egt and boost, but I can't test egt because I can't hardly hit 1200* lol

 

 

So it the lope audible or visual on the tach or both?  

 

 

Audible only.  Tach seems to be fairly steady.

@Carbur8tr  Is lope the right word to use?  I guess I am confused as to the situtation as your logs show a steady idle, all be it lower than normal.  

 

trying to think of 

1. why a "lope" sound without a lope idle

2. why ecm would be causing the above

3. why revs are lower than normal.  

 

 

What is the ecm reacting to? truly perplexing.

1. Yes, the best way I can describe it would be a lope.  Not a hard lope but more of a vibration that is audible like the engine has a bit of a hitch.

 

2. Not sure and really not sure why it would be idling so low.  I believe that it is still within the window of normality but regardless I've never had a problem like this before.

 

3. I have the same question, not terribly convinced it's due to the Quad but 790s is definitely getting down there.