Let me start off by saying that I am in no way affiliated with Quadzilla or Diesel Auto Power. I was simply asked to test the new updates because I have big injectors, I'm familiar with the Quad, and I know the person doing all of the tuning. This person wishes to remain anonymous, so it will stay that way.

On to the good stuff!!!

So what is V2? Basically it's a way to gain more control over the tuning parameters, with an emphasis on CLEAN POWER. I've got big injectors, and I've driven my own truck enough that I can drive it virtually smoke free, but I have to be very careful with the right petal (even when set to stock)

Here are the custom tuning parameters:

Alright, let's start with the power levels: 
0=stock
1=Power Percent (Explained later)
2=Fuel mileage (Same as the old number 1)
3=can-bus only (Same as old number 2)
4=can-bus + wiretap (same as old number 3)
and so on to the maximum level set is reached.

So, as you can see the first 8 parameters (through "TPS CAN Minimum") are the same as they've always been. They will function just like they used to.

The next two have to do with wiretap fueling. The "Boost Pump Scaling" gives the %specified of called for wiretap fueling if the boost is below the "boost pump low limit"
As an example:(Let's say it's set on level 10) In the pictures you can see I have the scaling set to 0% until 15psi. This means I'll get zero wiretap fueling until I hit 15psi of boost. If it was set at 50% I would get 600us of wiretap before 15psi. 
This greatly reduces the amount of smoke output without reducing your peak power.

Next we have Power Percent. This is the "new" level one! Here we have the percentage of stock power called for at all times. This is perfect to use for emissions testing, letting the wife/kids drive etc. This is also another way to reduce smoke if you're wanting to be really clean. 

Next is boost scaling. This is the same as it used to be. Just a smoothing feature.

Next we have PSI% listed 0-17 in increments of 1. This feature allows you to set the amount of stock power based on boost. It allows you to ramp up the power from 0-17psi, effectively reducing smoke and making the truck more driveable.

 

Now for my experience with testing.

 

Level 1: With my truck stock, I can floor it at any time and create quite a cloud of smoke. You'd swear I have a tuner cranked, but it's not. With my truck set to 70%, I can floor it while doing 55mph in 6th and get as big of a puff as a stock 24V. Meanwhile it'll pull about 34psi @ 2000rpm and 40psi by 2500rpm.  It does make the truck a little doggy, but I could adjust the percentage up as I saw fit and still keep smoke to a minimum. This would be perfect if someone were to borrow my truck (never going to happen but you get the point) They could try to hotrod it as much as they want but won't be able to. I do think this would make emissions a breeze to pass, and it could be used as a safety device to keep the truck from being stolen. Essentially you can set it to 1% and the truck would only idle.

 

Now for the PSI%: With the power level turned up around 1500rpm I can stab the throttle (0psi of boost) and get nothing more than a slight haze until the boost picks up and the quad starts fueling hard. Spool is still excellent under these conditions, I just need to work on my top-end fuel command to reduce the smoke up there. This has made the biggest difference in CLEAN power. The quad is essentially rolling into the throttle for you as the boost comes up so you don't cloud the highway when you get on it. 

Now the "Boost pump scaling" and "boost pump low limit": The wiretap fueling is essentially it's "own" programmer. It doesn't follow the rules of the can-bus fueling. This was taking effect in my description above because it doesn't wiretap fuel for me until 15psi of boost. Thus why it's only a haze until 15psi.

 

Now, what I'm not quite happy with yet. Off idle, if I stab the throttle on level 1 I get a puff of smoke. I am told this is because of where the quad takes over and starts controlling things. It's being worked on and should be fixed soon. Other than that I'm very happy! I do have only 20 miles or so of testing, but this does look very promising. I'll be putting 50 miles on in the morning and 50 miles in the afternoon, so I'll have more info then.

Any questions post em up and I'll do my best to answer them. The future of clean power for 24V's looks promising  

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Me78569
Changed the title for SEO reasons

@Carbur8tr 's datalogs are exporting without the timestamp columns being lined up.  It was a nightmare to work through.....My logs are always perfectly lined up in time order, his are not.

1 hour ago, Royal Squire said:

Any idea why I devices don't use Bluetooth 

From what I understand it's a software issue. Apple has everything so locked up that it's literally cheaper to just produce a separate WiFi dongle for the quad vs paying out the nose to Apple for unlocking software. 

 

@Me78569 any idea why the iQuad is defueling @ 25 PSI now despite being set to 35 PSI? I'm running a Galaxy S5 now with the updated APK iQuad update. Tried everything from unpairing and repairing to resetting all settings in the settings portion of the app. Still won't let boost go over 25 

Edited March 8, 20178 yr by crf450ish

Why does my iPhone work with Bluetooth in my pickup?  Is that different somehow? Forgive me as I'm electronically challenged!

6 minutes ago, Royal Squire said:

Why does my iPhone work with Bluetooth in my pickup?  Is that different somehow? Forgive me as I'm electronically challenged!

I'm talking about iPhone + Wifi connection to the Quadzilla vs. Android + Bluetooth connection to the Quadzilla. 

 

Your iphone will not connect to the Quad via Bluetooth. 

 

This is is how wireless monitor connections work with the Quadzilla: 

 

Wifi = iPhone 

 

Bluetooth = Android devices 

Post data logs.  I can only randomly guess without seeing the datalogs

I'll have to pull up to a star bucks or mcdonalds and export data....my wifi at house won't reach to my driveway where I park my truck haha

sorry my memory is toast, still on IOS?  

 

 

If you are on andriod you can just export to local folder and move it later.  

Is it a hard defuel or a soft?

19 hours ago, Me78569 said:

sorry my memory is toast, still on IOS?  

 

 

If you are on andriod you can just export to local folder and move it later.  

nope. not on iOS anymore. Switched to android phone. When you say local folder, what do you mean? I'm android dumb haha

5 hours ago, jlbayes said:

Is it a hard defuel or a soft?

soft...just keeps pulling but won't boost past 25 psi. Its something in the app telling the quad to stop fueling at 25 pounds. Strange stuff. 

This shows how you can data log.  at second 29 of the video you can see the fx folder opition 

 

 

Install from the play store a folder manager program.  That program will respond to the iquad app when you hit "export data" that will allow you to save that data log to a local folder on the device.

 

 

Thanks  @Me78569

@crf450ish found a minor bug with warm up vs oem high idle.  somehow the quad is "defueling" OEM high idle if the Quad's wamrup mode is not active.  

 

So high idle still works, but if warmup is not triggered then you will see very reduced high idle temps.  

 

How? no idea

Why? not a clue

when? peesh

 

will update as I know more

4 hours ago, Me78569 said:

@crf450ish found a minor bug with warm up vs oem high idle.  somehow the quad is "defueling" OEM high idle if the Quad's wamrup mode is not active.  

 

So high idle still works, but if warmup is not triggered then you will see very reduced high idle temps.  

 

How? no idea

Why? not a clue

when? peesh

 

will update as I know more

So when I get my quad this weekend should I enable warm up mode or should I leave it off since I have factory high idle enabled

5 hours ago, Me78569 said:

@crf450ish found a minor bug with warm up vs oem high idle.  somehow the quad is "defueling" OEM high idle if the Quad's wamrup mode is not active.  

 

So high idle still works, but if warmup is not triggered then you will see very reduced high idle temps.  

 

How? no idea

Why? not a clue

when? peesh

 

will update as I know more

So the quad is touching it while the tps is at 0. That would explain the hard knocking I was telling you about. Maybe you need to make sure the quad doesn't touch the truck when tps is 0 and speed <35 (or whatever cruise can be set at)

@Silverdodge

 

Leave warm up enabled. OEM high idle will work if the truck is cold.

That's something I want to touch on the span of cruise timing operates at. @Me78569 we need to include down to 35 MPH and just a hair below 1500 RPM's. Right now the cruise timing only operates at speeds above 45 MPH and above 1500 RPM's so if I set my cruise on at 35 MPH on long city streets I'm stuck with performance timing. Because both RPM and Speed are both below the range. So like include down to 1,200 RPM's and 35 MPH and you'll cover the entire usable cruise band. 

 

So make it two bugs to fix. 

 

Like I found this on my day trips to Boise. The truck route through McCall ID is 35 MPH with no traffic lights or stops. I can set my cruise for 35 in 4th gear. 35 MPH is below the cruise timing limit, as well the RPM's I'll have to verify the number.  

Edited March 10, 20178 yr by Mopar1973Man

I can only include a 1000rpm range for cruise timing,  I don't feel real good about letting cruise timing enable for the masses at such a low rpm. 

 

right now cruise will kick in between 40 - 80 mph and between 1400 and 2400 rpm.  if I drop the rpm enable to 1200 rpm the upper limit would have to be dropped to 2200 because of the way the scaling function works to allow timing to be lower at 1400 than timing at 2400 rpm.

 

That rpm range was choosen to guys with 3.55's could do almost 80 and also guys with 4.10's could do almost 80.   

 

 

Dang........... 

Yea,  its a limitation of the design scope of the cruise timing stuff.  Like I said before cruise timing is not going to be perfect.  If it can hit the mark for highway travel %80 of the time I am happy.

9 hours ago, Me78569 said:

@Silverdodge

 

Leave warm up enabled. OEM high idle will work if the truck is cold.

So will quad high idle work also ?